David Quinn wrote:Both gospel and rap are 100% emotional and appeal to what is most base in humans. It is pure animal expression. Gospel is hysterical in nature and utterly depraved, while rap is violent in nature and equally depraved.
Both emanate out of black African mindlessness and impotency.
I can't find a single redeeming feature in either of them.
I failed to comment earlier, Shah, that it is my 10-year-old daughter that reads here, not the girlfriend (though she leans over the monitor now and then when Dan and/or David are in The Crucible having a go at it with a couple of the knuckleheads that rear their mojo..
What things do I do that you think 'suck the life'?
Iolaus wrote:Actually, I think you missed the most racist of David's comments, in which he implied that the black race lacks the intellect for enlightenment. I doubt that is true.
Black people have an emotional power that whites can't match.
DQ wrote:Does that mean white people have an intellectual power that blacks can't match?
I don't have any reason to think that a black person can't reach enlightenment, although I haven't yet come across any who have genuine potential.
.Pay no attention to Anna's claim that blacks are somehow superior emotionally
The difference of intellectual power between any two randomly chosen people is far greater than any statistical difference between the races.
Iolaus wrote:This is so and there are plenty of intelligent blacks. As to whether they as a race would hit the same curve as whites, or whether whites hit the same as orientals, is a question. So far, if there is a difference in large numbers, it appears the orientals are ahead. Then too, there is more than one type of intelligence.
brokenhead wrote:Pay no attention to Anna's claim that blacks are somehow superior emotionally. The difference of intellectual power between any two randomly chosen people is far greater than any statistical difference between the races.
brokenhead wrote:But, David: Gospel music is depraved? You have never experienced it live, I'll wager.
Sometimes I think you say things like this to shake the tree and see what falls out. I have to tell you that it really sounds ignorant. Meanwhile, I tell myself that since you are intelligent, you can't actually mean it. But shit - I've been wrong before.
David Quinn wrote:Death metal is pretty impressive live, but it is still a depraved art-form nonetheless. Opeth excluded, of course.
Calling Asians "Orientals" would be like calling black people "coloreds."
Iolaus wrote:Brokenhead,Calling Asians "Orientals" would be like calling black people "coloreds."
What? Have I missed the latest politically correct phraseology?
C'mon. I never heard of this. Many times I read in respectable tomes of the Caucasian, Negroid and Oriental races. Asian is used too, no doubt.
oriental (plural orientals)
A person from the Orient, or with ancestry from the Orient.
Note: this term is considered by some to be objectionable in American English.
 Usage notesThe term "oriental", with connotations of exoticism, at one time referred to the people, culture, and nations of the Near East. More recently it has been used more to refer generically to the people, culture, and nations of the Far East. Even more recently, in some places it has come to be considered objectionable or offensive, particularly in its noun form. While "the Orient" has become a somewhat dated term, "oriental", particularly as an adjective, still sees frequent use.
One complaint has been its frequent use by some to denigrate Asian people and people of Asian descent, which many feel has given the word itself a bad connotation. Others object to the term being used as a blanket term for people of Asian or East Asian descent, since that ignores the varied and often disparate cultures and histories of that area, thus emphasizing the sameness or indistinguishability of those cultures and peoples (and in reverse, imputing on the user a lack of awareness and concern for the cultural difference within Asia). A third reason given is that the term is so a vague that it is never clear which countries are included within the term. Most users, however, do not employ the term with any malicious intent whatsoever, and view it as a convenient and innocent generic term in the absence of more precise information.
Major objections to the term are fairly recent, and so it still sees frequent use, often by people unaware that objections to it exist. As awareness of the cultures in Asia has increased, its usage has decreased. Its occasional replacements, such as "Asian" and "East Asian", can also be seen as offensive by others. It can still be found in the mainstream media, though less frequently than in decades past. When used to describe Asian foods and other products, it raises fewer objections, and this remains one of the most acceptable ways of using the term. The atmosphere of sensitivity surrounding "oriental" suggests that it should be used with caution.
Major objections to the term are fairly recent, and so it still sees frequent use,
I do mean it, but it is evident that we have different ideas of what constitutes depravity, which in turn comes from having different values and goals. For example, I like to emphasize individuality and wise understanding over emotionalism and mob-behaviour.
Iolaus wrote:And, I'm offended that you would put chink and chinaman.
brokenhead wrote: Your problem is you cannot differentiate between emotions. You lump them all in together. You think anger and love are different facets of the same basic thing, for example. They may reflect different aspects of humanity, but they are just not the same beast.
When I lived in New York, I used to go visit my brother who lived on Washington Avenue in Brooklyn. Many Saturday nights simmered down into bleary-eyed Sunday mornings, when I would have to scrape myself together and straggle out to the subway that would take me back into Manhattan. On the way I would pass a black Baptist church. In nicer weather, the stained glass windows would be levered open and you could hear the Gospel music pouring forth from within. I would often linger to soak it in before moving on.
Not once did the term "mob-behavior" cross my mind, nor did I feel as if I were witnessing "depravity" of any kind. I was hearing the sounds of human joy - the ones you regard as "base" and "animal." I would look around and see the milieu from which the sounds of joy sprang and think: more power to them if they can get that from this.
Iolaus wrote:Anger is love's offspring.
That's because love is the only emotion there is.
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