Nordicvs wrote: It was your 5th post (page one) that lead me into this thread, had nothing to do with "hot air," even though I agree with his comment; in my expereince, it's true; though I've met some males who are full of hot air, too.
Nordicvs wrote: 3. "Woman" has nothing to do with biological gender. (For the record) I despise the feminine in males far more than I despise it in females.
(4. Whenever I say "females," I mean "biological females"---humans born with cunts. When I say "males," I mean "biological males"---humans born with cocks. "Masculine-Feminine" has very little, as far as I'm concerned, to do with physical or biological gender. Hence this is not some 'gender issue.' When I'm talking about overwhelmingly female behaviour, I'll rarely state or even allude to "all woman absolutely everywhere." I'll usually say "most women" or just "those women I've known." I do strive to be as fair, accurate, and non-biased as I can be. (Just for future consideration.))
Nordicvs wrote: Political Correctness puts up a lace curtain regarding gender, however, so it's discouraged to talk about differences between genders---or mass female tendencies (but not mass male tendencies), evidenced even here ("OMG misogynist! burn him! burn him!" attitudes, typically way off base, a shame/silencing tactic, or it's taken out of context).
Nordicvs wrote: But, as I already admitted, though, when it's some fucking bullshit that I've heard a million times and have grown so bloody weary of seeing people mindlessly parrot, I sometimes push my own buttons and take the gloves off (and sometimes for reasons that have nothing to do with the obvious). I'm not about to explain why I do everything I do, but keep in mind that not everything is at it seems.
Nordicvs wrote: Forgive me for being blunt, but I think you despise people (not necessarily "biological females") like her, or, more accurately, her character, how she behaves, et cetera, for the same reasons I do, and like others with any sense whatsoever do; also, I think you resent her---for getting so much attention, being indulged and coddled, and for being rewarded for this absurd behaviour---because I sense that you want to be acknowledged for your personal intelligence (as a "biological female") and people like her make it more difficult for people like you (those who are trying to be more than vile, appearance-oriented, superficial; inane and ridiculous---tit-sticks) to be taken seriously, and-or detracts from the attention you yourself seek...here is where I see many women flop back on their asses regarding their egos, and tend to get very bitter and defensive. (This ego is so bloody tricky this way...)
Nordicvs wrote: It's all understandable, too, so don't take this the wrong way. The bimbos give women as a gender a "bad rep" and always have
Nordicvs wrote: remember, that "women-as-property" had more rights than the men who "owned" that property; land and women were both protected feverishly, in essence, and were by default respected in ways that men never were, not even in ancient Greece; remember also that any crimes committed by women, men had to answer for.
Elizabeth Isabelle wrote:So you think that no mother has a sense of responsibility or sacrifices any of herself for her family?
Nordicvs wrote: Nope; the feminine does what it does, always, for other reasons---deceptions are so much the rule that I don't even think feminine women know when they're lying or telling the truth anymore. I never take a word as the truth from them---my experiences are so vast and deep that this has become a new instinct.
1. I've never encountered a feminine person who accepted responsibility for her actions. Ever. (A few instances, I have seen responsibility employed by women, but even these are exceptions. I'm not talking about fucking something up and saying "I'm sorry;" I'm talking about not saying that and simply admitting the fuck-up and refraining from doing it again.)
2. I have never seen a feminine (adult) person "go without" or sacrifice or give anything without expecting a reward later. Not once.
Elizabeth Isabelle wrote:No wife sacrifices her career because her husband needed to move for his? And usually, when either her parents or her husband's parents need elder-care, it is the female that takes the brunt of responsibility for that as well.Nordicvs wrote: I've seen plenty of women do things that certainly appeared altruistic and kind and caring---but, always, it was either conditional or expectant of either rewards or praise (like Christians "giving" to charity; they're not giving---they're investing in an eternal reward, making a deposit in their "heaven bank"---it's selfish, ultimately, and ugly.) Or for some other reason. Determining feminine motives has been a long interest of mine, and at times a fulltime job.
Nordicvs wrote: I was once given a flower, completely out of the blue, from a five-year-old girl... But she wasn't a woman, feminine or otherwise; maybe female altruism does exist, but that's my only experience with it---without strings attached
Nordicvs wrote: The masculine is a beacon of truth---there is no guile or pretense.
Nordicvs wrote: it seems here again you are confusing physical "female" with "femininity"---why is that? I don't get that. Can you describe what "feminine" and "masculine" mean to you?
Nordicvs wrote: (If you have some extra, extra time---it's admittedly quite long and too wordy---check out that "nudes" threadand my last post, where I get into my conception of both and see what you think. I'd like your opinion on that.) I'd think we'd be on the same page here more often if we both knew exactly where one another was coming from regarding these concepts...
Nordicvs wrote: As to what you just wrote, I don't see Sue as you do---from what I've seen, she seems to have an open mind, intelligence, isn't shy about speaking out (has balls), and generally has a good deal of potential in my humble estimation (for one thing, she has no blind loyalty to "her gender" but instead to a higher purpose---I see nothing wrong with that).
Nordicvs wrote: I can assure you (and prove) boys/males are not treated better than girls
Elizabeth Isabelle wrote:I gave up my 20's to take care of my father, despite how abusive he had been to me.Nordicvs wrote: Why duty?
Nordicvs wrote: And keep in mind that you decided to do that---"give up" your 20s. I pretty much did the same thing---as well as all hope for kids, which I really wanted for a long time. I did it---no one held a gun to my head. My choices. I'm responsible for getting into every stupid situation. But now I'm okay with it, no regrets. I know how much I've gained through loss, giving things away or up.
Dan Rowden wrote:What we're talking about here is aptitudes and natural psychological tendencies - and more specifically, those that are conducive to philosophical thinking and the pursuit of wisdom. (...) If someone can show me how the Gilmore Girls and soapies and so forth indicate a mental tendency that is of similar value or character [to watching sports], I'm all ears.
Katy wrote:Dan wrote:the content of sport is indicative of a mind capable of structured and systematic thought, the other just emotion and relationships.
On the other hand The Gilmore Girls etc show an ability to keep track of a plot and many of its finer details for weeks, or even years at a time. Admittedly, what you're keeping track of in this case isn't lofty in anyway, but it's certainly better than the 2 hours then it's over aside from "won" or "lost" that men use for sports.
And please explain to me how video games are in any way indicative of a mind capable of thought?
Dan Rowden wrote:Your average player of sport, like your mother of 3, is following routines, systems laid down for them by circumstance. This obviously involves intelligence and the ability to adapt within the routines and circumstance - i.e. some measure of ability to adopt strategies. However, it's kind of ironic that an armchair quarterback will likely engage the sport more intelligently than the real one.
Dan Rowden wrote:Most sports are highly complex systems and contain up to hundreds of rules. When men are not being merely boof-headed about sport they argue over the finer points of some strategy or rule, or umpire's decision. This requires real spatial reasoning and objectivity, a logical and systematic mind. This form of thinking is a requisite for philosophical thought.
Dan Rowden wrote:Just about everyone has to follow daily routines to live. "Sport" is not merely a routine. It is a creative and complex mental enterprise (except for ice hockey, which is just a bar room brawl on ice).
Dan Rowden wrote:there's the 3 dimentional, spatial reasoning, objective, creative, problem solving, logical realm of the average man's mind that he slips into on a more regular basis than you might think. In fact, men often retreat to that place to find refuge from the world (and sometimes to construct justifications for their folly).Elizabeth Isabelle wrote:Although I agree that the specific characteristics you mentioned are genderless, I would say that females also have similar states about as often (although generally more concrete than abstract). I would just say that the focus of those states is generally on a different topic than what men's minds are on when in those states.Dan Rowden wrote:Ok, so what topics would the average female's mind be on in such a state and what's the difference between concrete and abstract?
plotinus wrote:I can't believe that so many intellligent people don't know what the difference is between males and females! The correct answer is so simple and basic! Are you gong to feel silly when I tell you the answer!
Elizabeth Isabelle wrote:you've already gotten all the guesses you are going to get, and we've pretty much changed the topic by now.
Shah: And all those men who think with their dicks 90% of the time, well, they're not dumb or emotional, because at least they stop to reflect on this behavior once a year or so. Yeah, right.
Esoterix: All those men afflicted in their dicks are because of all those confusing vibes coming from all those women who play the sex game to-who-laid-the-hilt.
Shah: Come on, feed me some more of how great the average male is. Maybe then I can talk myself into going back to dating.
Esoterix: Given the kind of malleable men that seem to interest you, perchance a boob job?
Katy wrote:you look a bit like a two year old child running around going "GUESS WHAT I HAVE BEHIND MY BACK!?" and finding the adults continuing their conversations running back in occasionally going "GUESS! GUESS!"
Esoterix wrote:Do you reckon women would have a clue why sergeant Kilgore is grinning like a dog eating cockleburrs?
Esoterix wrote:Which of the three is a gurl?
Nordicvs wrote:(For example, in Vancouver, male firefighters now have to wear boxers becauser a female complained---"sexual harrassment"---about men walking around in their gonch.) Disrespect is assured here, as is resentment and bitterness over "special treatment," of these primma donnas, and teamwork suffers, and people end up dying.
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