Well, any idiot could figure that out.Telsacoils obtained his original article from Wikipedia but failed to cite the source.
Faizi
But what if no one wants your information? I like to read the ideas of others but I resent being offered information in such a condescending way -- "for free." I would not pay for your information and neither do I want it for free. I am not much interested in information from Jesus Christ or Buddha. I have gleaned much from Nietzsche and Kierkegaard and Spinoza and Schopanhauer and others.I offer information for free.
An obstacle, something that impedes progress.MKFaizi wrote:Chad,
What is a problem?
General examples of ways an arbitrary problem might be classified.A mathematical problem? A computer problem? A relationship problem?
I believe that solving a problem would cause one to gain insight and therefore become more enlightened.In what way will solving a given problem help you become enlightened?
Is this a typical example of the scholarly research, context, and overall conversational ability one would expect from another asserting an IQ of 180?teslacoils2006 wrote:http://tinyurl.com/zovnh
Chadwick Stones crime is treason. Chadwick Stone works for insurgents.org.
Chadwick stocked psychiatric doctors to pave the way for pilll pushing pharmaceutical salesman pretending to be doctors. Chadwick stone interfered with an election campaign torturing the candidate sylvia sullivan. Chadwick is a candodate for death row. Does he have the right to worry about the information I used. Wikipedia is a resource for everyone and for me saves typing on a ipod.
Chadwick Stone wrote:Is this a typical example of the scholarly research, context, and overall conversational ability one would expect from another asserting an IQ of 180?teslacoils2006 wrote:http://tinyurl.com/zovnh
Chadwick Stones crime is treason. Chadwick Stone works for insurgents.org.
Chadwick stocked psychiatric doctors to pave the way for pilll pushing pharmaceutical salesman pretending to be doctors. Chadwick stone interfered with an election campaign torturing the candidate sylvia sullivan. Chadwick is a candodate for death row. Does he have the right to worry about the information I used. Wikipedia is a resource for everyone and for me saves typing on a ipod.
Your "statement" is a group of unsubstantiated accusations. You accused me of treason, I challenge you to present evidence to back your accusation.teslacoils2006 wrote:yes.....
My statement opens up the possibility you have no ability for a proper argument.
Then you can present records from my employer that identify my job title, job description, and current paygrade.I can prove you are a paid provocateur
Everyone acts on an agenda. Everyone has a reason that compels them to post here (or anywhere).who acts on an agenda
Perhaps I cannot, that is for the group to determine and you no more speak for the readership than I do.and can not offer this group any enlightenment.
Do you have evidence that I am a member or espouse the appropriate doctrines?If you want to know Chadwicks idea of enlightenment check out church of the subgenius
I do not subscribe to alt.slack although some posts authored by me might appear in alt.slack by way of crosspost.or alt.slack in google.
jesus was crusified for what he believed in .teslacoils2006 wrote:The more one is conscious of the true nature of Reality, the more one is a genius. By this definition, people like Jesus, the Buddha, Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, Weininger, and Socrates were geniuses to greater or lesser degree.
I pullled this off your introduction and wondered if anyone
would like to discuss
socrates...
Chadwick Stone wrote:Your "statement" is a group of unsubstantiated accusations. You accused me of treason, I challenge you to present evidence to back your accusation.teslacoils2006 wrote:yes.....
My statement opens up the possibility you have no ability for a proper argument.
Then you can present records from my employer that identify my job title, job description, and current paygrade.I can prove you are a paid provocateur
Everyone acts on an agenda. Everyone has a reason that compels them to post here (or anywhere).who acts on an agenda
Perhaps I cannot, that is for the group to determine and you no more speak for the readership than I do.and can not offer this group any enlightenment.
Do you have evidence that I am a member or espouse the appropriate doctrines?If you want to know Chadwicks idea of enlightenment check out church of the subgenius
I do not subscribe to alt.slack although some posts authored by me might appear in alt.slack by way of crosspost.or alt.slack in google.
Try again.
O nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!the iluminati ...
But doesn't the notion of "intelligence" cover that? And insight into what? What genre of "problems" are you referring to? I know I'm being picky but what you said seems too nebulous to me.Chad:I will not try to define enlightenment because I'm sure that it means different things to different people.
Dan: How does that stop you from defining it? If you can talk about it you must have some idea what it means to you..
Chad: Enlightenment to me is the gift of being able to gain insight and use that insight to solve problems.
Ok, but learn about what? Everday practical matters or things of a more ultimate nature? If you mean the former then sure, I agree. But with respect to the latter the enlightened person has nothing more to learn. That's part of what enlightenment is - knowledge of what is ultimately true.Chad: However, I feel qualified to assert that a key element of enlightenment is to remain teachable.
Dan:[...] "teachable" with respect to what? The mundane features of life or what is ultimately true of Reality?
Chad: Teachable as in willing and able to learn.
Sure, that's impossible by definition.Chad: No one person knows it all, no one person is right all the time,
Dan: Ok, but are you speaking here about everyday, empirical, contingent facts of life, or that which is true of reality in an absolute sense?
Chad: I'm speaking of knowledge in general. There is no one person who is capable of amassing all knowledge.
By that I mean the matters about which philosophy is formally concerned. Matters pertaining to Ultimate Reality. Once these are understood, because they are principles rather than contingent facts, there is nothing more to learn. Once you understand things such as the relativity of all finite things, that all things are caused, that Reality is infinite, that God doesn't exist etc, there's noting more to learn about such matters. One simply functions on the basis of the consequences of such knowledge.I am unsure what you mean by "or that which is true of reality in an absolute sense."
Well, ok, those are pretty serious flaws!Chad: and if one is truly enlightened then they will recognize their own flaws and inevitable mistakes and failures, prepare for them as best they can and learn from them when their preemptive preparations fail.
Dan: What kind of flaws are you refering to?
Chad: Some examples include compulsions to deceive, steal, even murder.
Well, yes, but character traits that are demanded of one's own group are never demanded against one's perceived enemies. You can deceive and steal from and even kill them, because, well, they are bad and probably deserve it. Probably Iraqi.Such compulsions would likely be viewed as character flaws in an organized society, but granted, it is based on contemporary societal norms. I must concede that the reverse would be true within a "gang" culture where sociopathical activity is espoused as a badge of worthiness for membership.
Proof of what, Teslacoils? I saw no evidence of employment, no payslips, no EFT transactions, no job titles, no job descriptions, no evidence of criminal activity... What I see are links to lengthy posts without pertinent information highlighted, a fixation upon my name, and a preoccupation with conspiracy.proof you ordered Chadwick
I think the only problem Nietzsche could have had with Goethes genius was that he never met the man!24. O sancta simplicitiatas! In what strange simplification and falsification man lives! One can never cease wondering when once one has got eyes for beholding this marvel! How we have made everything around us clear and free and easy and simple! how we have been able to give our senses a passport to everything superficial, our thoughts a godlike desire for wanton pranks and wrong inferences!--how from the beginning, we have contrived to retain our ignorance in order to enjoy an almost inconceivable freedom, thoughtlessness, imprudence, heartiness, and gaiety--in order to enjoy life! And only on this solidified, granitelike foundation of ignorance could knowledge rear itself hitherto, the will to knowledge on the foundation of a far more powerful will, the will to ignorance, to the uncertain, to the untrue! Not as its opposite, but--as its refinement! It is to be hoped, indeed, that LANGUAGE, here as elsewhere, will not get over its awkwardness, and that it will continue to talk of opposites where there are only degrees and many refinements of gradation; it is equally to be hoped that the incarnated Tartuffery of morals, which now belongs to our unconquerable "flesh and blood," will turn the words round in the mouths of us discerning ones. Here and there we understand it, and laugh at the way in which precisely the best knowledge seeks most to retain us in this SIMPLIFIED, thoroughly artificial, suitably imagined, and suitably falsified world: at the way in which, whether it will or not, it loves error, because, as living itself, it loves life!
25. After such a cheerful commencement, a serious word would fain be heard; it appeals to the most serious minds. Take care, ye philosophers and friends of knowledge, and beware of martyrdom! Of suffering "for the truth's sake"! even in your own defense! It spoils all the innocence and fine neutrality of your conscience; it makes you headstrong against objections and red rags; it stupefies, animalizes, and brutalizes, when in the struggle with danger, slander, suspicion, expulsion, and even worse consequences of enmity, ye have at last to play your last card as protectors of truth upon earth--as though "the Truth" were such an innocent and incompetent creature as to require protectors! and you of all people, ye knights of the sorrowful countenance, Messrs Loafers and Cobweb-spinners of the spirit! Finally, ye know sufficiently well that it cannot be of any consequence if YE just carry your point; ye know that hitherto no philosopher has carried his point, and that there might be a more laudable truthfulness in every little interrogative mark which you place after your special words and favourite doctrines (and occasionally after yourselves) than in all the solemn pantomime and trumping games before accusers and law-courts! Rather go out of the way! Flee into concealment! And have your masks and your ruses, that ye may be mistaken for what you are, or somewhat feared! And pray, don't forget the garden, the garden with golden trellis-work! And have people around you who are as a garden--or as music on the waters at eventide, when already the day becomes a memory. Choose the GOOD solitude, the free, wanton, lightsome solitude, which also gives you the right still to remain good in any sense whatsoever! How poisonous, how crafty, how bad, does every long war make one, which cannot be waged openly by means of force! How PERSONAL does a long fear make one, a long watching of enemies, of possible enemies! These pariahs of society, these long-pursued, badly-persecuted ones--also the compulsory recluses, the Spinozas or Giordano Brunos--always become in the end, even under the most intellectual masquerade, and perhaps without being themselves aware of it, refined vengeance-seekers and poison-Brewers (just lay bare the foundation of Spinoza's ethics and theology!), not to speak of the stupidity of moral indignation, which is the unfailing sign in a philosopher that the sense of philosophical humour has left him. The martyrdom of the philosopher, his "sacrifice for the sake of truth," forces into the light whatever of the agitator and actor lurks in him; and if one has hitherto contemplated him only with artistic curiosity, with regard to many a philosopher it is easy to understand the dangerous desire to see him also in his deterioration (deteriorated into a "martyr," into a stage-and- tribune-bawler). Only, that it is necessary with such a desire to be clear WHAT spectacle one will see in any case--merely a satyric play, merely an epilogue farce, merely the continued proof that the long, real tragedy IS AT AN END, supposing that every philosophy has been a long tragedy in its origin.