bluerap:
Searching Google and YouTube for "meta-evolution" and "M-Theory" gives back vague results that doesn't seem to be very relevant with what you say, at least on the surface. Do you have any links or videos you can share for those that want to know more about what you're talking about?
Macro evolution is a better search term. M theory should get you to a wiki.
Dennis:
You are giving consciousness 'absolute reality'.
if consciousness is of the status 'absolute reality'.
it cannot depend for its existence.
that it is independent.
Is that your assertion?
Reality is contingent upon consciousness, yes.It is not an assertion, it is what is self evident.
Show me a universe apart or outside from consciousness.
can we call consciousness a stream of mental events of a non-physical nature.
No - that is the medical term 'to be conscious'.
Consciousness is the full set, awareness is a subset of consciousness and perception is a subset of awareness.
mental events arise from previous mental events in an unbroken continuum, much as physical entities arise from previous physical entities.
grandfather begets father, father begets son and so on.
physical events modify and transform mental events without transforming into them.
mental events modify and transform physical events without transforming into them.
Allow me to quote you, Dennis said:
can you distinguish between a mind that conceives of an electron,
and an electron the mind conceives of?
if you can you may notice that there's an interdependent causal relationship.
you may also assume that at the moment a mind conceives of an electron, that the electron always existed and was waiting for a mind to find it.
have you evidence that the electron always existed.
what you are arguing,apparently, and I could be mistaken, is essentialism.
that 'things' have an essential nature, are independent, have their 'own being', exist from their own side.
what about the notion of a participatory universe, a dance of mind and matter.
a display.
You are holding two completely contradictory positions. The Buddha said when you realize the truth you are free from all contradiction.
so there we are at the participatory realisation again.
mind and matter interdependent.
how can that which depends assume absolute status?
Because there is no universe that is outside of consciousness. Therefore, consciousness interpenetrates the universe.
This is why I talk about the photon, so you can plainly see this.
⊃ or super set is known as superposition. If photon is both energy and information, which it is, it contains all atomic structure. If consciousness is both energy and information, which it is, it contains all atomic structure.
C ^ Consciousness - an identical mathematical match. Therefore, it is not an assertion, it is proof.
C=dA+A^A
Consciousness and light travel at the same speed. Electricity travels at the speed of light until it meets resistance.
Consciousness and the electromagnetic wave are identical. They are both, at the same time, a particle and a wave function.
This is testable, can be duplicated, can be falsified and has predictive power. Therefore it can be verified.
the Buddhists believe your personhood dies with your body but some subtle energy passes into other worlds or other forms.
If 'I' reemerged as a mosquito,
what would be different?
there would still be physical/mental events.
still an interdependent experience.
its still causes/conditions and what is causes/conditions lacks inherent existence.
You did not answer a single question I asked you. That is not healthy, avoiding questions that is. How do you honestly expect to know truth when you dodge questions?
You need to seriously work on that dude. Answer my questions or we will keep going around in circles.
David:
Describe the object that is currently sitting on my table to the left of the computer.
David, David - still thinking I am promoting a parlor trick.
Are you aware of this object? Since you must be, therefore consciousness is aware of this object. There is no object outside David, especially since you are containing it in your field of awareness.
You think consciousness, as I am describing it, is to 'be conscious'. I am talking about the source of thought not thought itself.
I will describe it - it is beside your computer and therefore exists in Davids consciousness.
But I will tell you what I see - illumination and a cup.
If consciousness is conceived to be identical to Nature (the ALL) in every respect, then it is infinite. If not, it is finite.
This is the entire problem - right here. Full stop, put on the brakes and hit the pause button.
You cannot - under any circumstances - conceive of The All. It cannot be, nor will it ever be, a concept. A concept is a model, at its very best. The totality cannot be conceptualized, neither can consciousness. Not now - not ever.
It can only be experienced. It, the all, defies all definitions; and by the way, so does your consciousness.
The problem lies with people wanting it to be identical to Nature (so that it can be all-inclusive) and yet not identical to Nature (since it involves the mental projection of an additional quality).
No - you still are not getting it. Consciousness and nature are not subject to being only what it can be. It is not made of the sum of its parts and seeks impossibilities because that is the nature of what the infinite is. It has already expanded to all possible worlds, it therefore expands the possibilities of what is. That is the essence of what the infinite is.
This defies all constraints of any and every concept.
Your consciousness has never repeated a single experience because it, as well as nature, are in a continuum of infinite momentum. It can never exhaust itself in experience or thought.
In the end, the desire to conceive everything being composed of consciousness is the egotistical desire to feel in control of things.
In the end, the desire to be able to conceive of the totality is the desire to feel in control. I can assure you, you will never conceive your consciousness , nature, or the all.
The moment you think you have conceptualized it - it just expanded beyond the horizon.