Cathy Preston wrote:
The Fall of Man: In Christian doctrine, the fall of man, or simply the fall, refers to the transition of the first humans from a state of innocent obedience to God to a state of guilty disobedience to God.
movingalways wrote:The spirit of man is the conscience of consciousness.
The Fall of Man: The Fall of Man (also called "The Story of the Fall" or "The Fall") is the story in the book of Genesis [n the Torah (Old Testament) of when Adam and Eve, in God's eyes, lost their innocence. Genesis says that Adam and Eve ate from the Tree of Knowledge even after God told them it was not allowed. Adam and Eve lost their innocence and were thrown out of the Garden of Eden,
Our purpose is not to develop a conscience it's to forget we ever had one. To return to our innocence. Our Innocence is seeing through the illusion of separation here and now, as Dennis says "transformation is for the mind to see itself in it's activity."
I am not speaking as a Christian. The bible to me is a book of wisdom of Ultimate Reality.
The God you are addressing is the sentient God of Genesis 2, the one who formed the man, took the man to dress and keep the garden of Eden, tempted the man, shamed the man and then pretended his innocence by walking in the cool of the day demanding to know where his newly formed, newly shamed Son was hiding. This God as presented in Genesis 2 is the Grand Creator of All Things, the Everything of the Everything? How can this be so? His behaviour more mimics that of my grade one teacher who pretended she didn't know that I was hiding in the cloak room until the recess bell went and lo and behold, Pam appeared!
Most people begin the story of God, as you did, with Genesis 2. This is why God has become a sentient God in the minds of all sentient beings, with no way out of the suffering that is the cyclical repeitition of sentience. Birth, pain, pleasure, death, birth, pain, pleasure, death....ad infinitum. Go back one chapter to Genesis 1, however, and you will meet the God of "every plant of the field before
it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before
it grew" - the Spirit God who caused the God who caused it
to rain upon the earth and formed a man to till the ground.
By conscience, I do not mean the guilty conscience of Adam and Eve who by the very hand of the Lord God's fall guy, the serpent, were made to eat of the tree, I mean conscious awareness of the suffering that is the appearance of the duplicate sentient God [the something "wrong" as you stated in another post] and the making the "wrong", right again.
Sentience is not good, nor is sentience evil. Sentience is not innocent, nor is it guilty. It is however, the original tender and vulnerable coverup, and being a coverup, can be removed, not only for the sake of the spirit of man's appearance of tenderness and vulnerability, but for the sake of all beings who suffer the same appearance of tenderness and vulnerability, from fruit fly to blue whale.