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The Mystic....

Postby Kunga » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:15 am

This thread is for information on mystics.

Please include the poetry of mystics, you own mystical experiences, and any interesting information
regarding this subject.

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http://www.kundaliniawakeningsystems1.c ... l-pond.pdf


http://www.mysticsmasters.com/

One of my favs :

http://www.katsandogz.com/gibran.html
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Re: The Mystic....

Postby Dennis Mahar » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:03 am

Take your pick.

Naked, non-conceptual awareness.

or form appearing.

follow the bouncing ball,
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Re: The Mystic....

Postby Kunga » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:14 am

:)

Take your pick :
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Re: The Mystic....

Postby Dennis Mahar » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:16 am

geddit?

there's nothing to get.

it's empty and meaningless.

maya.

very funny.
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Re: The Mystic....

Postby Kunga » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:21 am

What's the diff ?

Form & Emptiness are the same thing.

What do you do to enjoy life ?

I love leaning & reading about inspiring people....people that inspire me....to live...go on...survive...get it ?
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Re: The Mystic....

Postby Dennis Mahar » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:25 am

I love leaning & reading about inspiring people....people that inspire me....to live...go on...survive...get it ?


yeah,
follow the bouncing ball,
cool.
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Re: The Mystic....

Postby Kunga » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:28 am

No...seriously...i don't follow no fuckin bouncing ball shit....lol

What [besides being a bodhisattva], do you do to get you through a day... in the life of Dennis ?

Do you enjoy an ice cold beer once in a while ?
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Re: The Mystic....

Postby Dennis Mahar » Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:16 am

look at memories a lot.
there's been many exquisite moments to stand in again and again
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Re: The Mystic....

Postby Kunga » Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:44 am

Dennis Mahar wrote:look at memories a lot.
there's been many exquisite moments to stand in again and again


How about now ?
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Postby Dennis Mahar » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:27 am

How about now ?


When does now start and finish?

Where is meaning?
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Re: The Mystic....

Postby Kunga » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:41 am

Dennis Mahar wrote:
How about now ?


When does now start and finish?

Where is meaning?


You know what I mean.
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Re: The Mystic....

Postby Kunga » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:42 am

How to Stop by Shabkar

When all I do is think about reality
And let awareness undermine itself --
I must stop.

When I let go
Of fighting, loving, dealing,
Prostrating, circumambulating,
Sacred dance and gesture --
I am alone and independent.

When I let go
Of mundane chatter,
Chants, prayers,
Psychic-energetic recitation --
I am in silence.

When I let go
Of muddled mundane thought,
Faith, compassion,
Esoteric practices --
I’m open, vivid.

Why?

When you stop running --
The body’s at ease,
When it’s at ease,
Nerves are settled,
When they’re settled,
Mind energy’s settled,

When it’s settled,
Thoughts stop by themselves,
Luminous intelligence erupts.

(The yogi’s never sick
Because his body’s undisturbed.)

When you stop language games --
Wordless concentration starts,
Free flowing energy inside
Nerves of kati’s crystal hollow
Intensifies the light.

(The yogi’s life is long
Because his energy’s at ease.)

When you stop thinking --
The twists and turns of thought stop,
You break free.


From The Flight of the Garuda (Thod rgal: 37b, iii - 38b, i., 1825), translated by Stephen Batchelor, 1998.

Note: the kati: is "a crystalline translucent nerve or channel connecting the heart with the eyes." (John Myrdhin Reynolds, The Golden Letters, p. 307).
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Re: The Mystic....

Postby Dennis Mahar » Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:34 pm

I've never seen meaning outside language.

I looked under the bed, in the cupboard.
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Postby Kunga » Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:10 pm

The Lovers
will drink wine night and day.
They will drink until they can
tear away the veils of intellect and
melt away the layers of shame and modesty.
When in Love,
body, mind, heart and soul don't even exist.
Become this,
fall in Love, and you will not be separated again.

[Rumi]
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Re: The Mystic....

Postby Dennis Mahar » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:27 pm

neither from itself,
nor from another, nor from both,
nor without a cause does
anything whatever
anywhere arise.

the conflicting nature of reality,
where conventional reality suggests entities are separate and have essence,
and ultimate reality where entities lack self essence
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Postby Kunga » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:36 pm

yes, lovely Dennis......

To experience the ocean of essence,
resembling the sphere of unchanging space:
free of center and perimeter,
pervading the expanse.
Enlightened mind transcends cognitions!

Rootless and baseless are appearance
and void, in the self-arisen rikpa
of every perception.
Vivid is the sense of noncessation:
luminous, the absence of object perception.

Within the voidness free of class distinction
all appearances dissolve, for their ground is lost;
The rikpa of liberation is spread evenly.
Subject and object are both void,
for their roots are lost.

The essence of self-arisen wisdom
and all duality are cleansed like the sky;
subjects and objects arise as free from bounds,
as naked dharmakaya!
This is the Great Perfection, free of cognition!

The self-arisen ground primordially pure,
the ultraversed path supremely swift,
the unsought fruit spontaneously savored,
such is the Great Perfection,
in the radiant dharmakaya.

This primordial sphere of pervasive essence
is the Great Perfection of samsara
and nirvana; this song of transcending --
beyond cause and effect, beyond all endeaver,
was sung by Longchen Rabjam Zangpo.
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Re: The Mystic....

Postby Kunga » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:55 pm

I love the radiant opening lines of this great poem of the Dzogchen tradition:

To experience the ocean of essence,
resembling the sphere of unchanging space:
free of center and perimeter,
pervading the expanse.
Enlightened mind transcends cognitions!

"Free of center and perimeter, / pervading the expanse..." This is how the deep mystic perceives reality -- an all-pervading presence that is not limited by the boundaries of form, space, or time. Reality is seen to be a wholeness that is in no way broken or separated by the apparent diversity and disconnection of objects. Reality also has no center in the sense that objects and beings don't have a tangible and coherent substance of their own. There is a vast, blissful Being-ness, but no real thing-ness to any of it. The idea of objects, boundaries, separation, reveals itself to be just that -- an idea and nothing more. This idea is the result of the mind's "cognitions," the habitual way the limited mind breaks down and organizes perception so it can pretend it has grasped a small portion of reality and mastered it. But, in doing so, the mind blinds itself the true nature of reality all around it. As Longchen Rabjampa reminds us, "Enlightened mind transcends cognitions!" -- it transcends the limited mind's reflexive instinct to objectify and dominate; when the mind finally yields to what really is, it witnesses the unbroken expanse.

Longchen Rabjampa uses the term "rikpa" a few times. In Tibetan Buddhism, rikpa means literally "to know," and more specifically it is used by Dzogchen practitioners to mean "pure awareness." So when Lonchen Rabjampa speaks of "the self-arisen rikpa / of every perception," he is talking of the true and natural perception that arises when it is free of the limited mind's attempts to box reality into its preconceived notions. This awareness is self-arisen because it is naturally so; it is not a "cognition" but an ego-less recognition of the way things are. There is perception, but without a 'perceiver,' without an ego that inserts itself into the middle of the action, muddying the resulting awareness.

Another term that may need a brief explanation is his use of "dharmakaya." Dharmakaya is the "truth body," the ultimate state of the enlightened mind. Longchen Rabjampa gives us the beautiful statement that "subjects and objects arise as free from bounds, / as naked dharmakaya!" The dichotomy of subject and object implies a separation between the two that does not truly exist. There is no perceiver and perceived, only perception. When we recognize this, subject and object are "free from bounds." Everything we habitually thought of as an object of perception stands naked before us; the clothing of concepts that the mind has artificially projected onto everything falls away. Things are simply as they are. They are not even 'things.' They are not even 'they.' There is just fluid Being that ripples and plays with the fleeting appearance of form -- the "ocean of essence." The awareness capable of witnessing this essential nature of reality is dharmakaya, the truth body.

Have a beautiful day, enveloped in "radiant dharmakaya!"


[Commentary by Ivan M. Granger]
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Re: The Mystic....

Postby Kunga » Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:57 am

http://thegreenleaf.co.uk/hp/basho/00basho.htm

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I love this one:



I feel quite at home
as if it were mine sleeping lazily
in this house of fresh air

basho
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Re: The Mystic....

Postby Kunga » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:07 am

I love this...


A cold night - sitting alone in my empty room
Filled only with incense smoke.
Outside, a bamboo grove of a hundred trees;
On the bed several volumes of poetry.
The moon shines from the top of the window,
And the entire neighbourhood is still except for the cry of insects.
Looking at this scene, limitless emotion,
But not one word.


- Ryokan
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Postby Kunga » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:22 am

Now until the dualistic identity mind melts and dissolves,
it may seem that we are parting.
Please be happy.
When you understand the dualistic mind,
there will be no separation from me.
May my good wishes fill the sky.

[Yeshe Tsogyal]





The Supreme Being is the Dakini Queen of the Lake of Awareness!
I have vanished into fields of lotus-light, the plenum of dynamic space,
To be born in the inner sanctum of an immaculate lotus;
Do not despair, have faith!
When you have withdrawn attachment to this rocky defile,
This barbaric Tibet, full of war and strife,
Abandon unnecessary activity and rely on solitude.
Practice energy control, purify your psychic nerves and seed-essence,
And cultivate mahamudra and Dsokchen.

The Supreme Being is the Dakini Queen of the Lake of Awareness!
Attaining humility, through Guru Pema Jungne's compassion I followed him,
And now I have finally gone into his presence;
Do not despair, but pray!
When you see your karmic body as vulnerable as a bubble,
Realising the truth of impermanence, and that in death you are helpless,
Disabuse yourself of fantasies of eternity,
Make your life a practice of sadhana,
And cultivate the experience that takes you to the place where Ati ends.

[Yeshe Tsogyal]







Listen, faithful Tibetans!
I am merging with the fundamental, the ground of all that is---
physical pain and suffering are disappearing....

The son, the inner elements of my body,
is reuniting with the mother, the outer elements.
Her physical remains will disappear into earth and stone.

The compassion of the Guru has never left me;
his manifestations fill all the world and call out to welcome me.

This wild lady has done everything;
Many times have I come and gone, but now, no longer.
I am a Tibetan wife sent back to her family.
I shall now appear as the Queen, the All-good, the Dharmakaya.

This self-sufficient black lady
has shaken things up far and wide;
now the shaking will carry me away into the southwest.

I have finished with intrigues,
with the fervent cascades of schemes and deceptions;
I am winding my way into the expanse of the Dharma.

I have mourned many men of Tibet who have left me behind---
but now I am the one who will go to the land of the Buddhas.

[Yeshe Tsogyal]


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Re: The Mystic....

Postby Kunga » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:35 am

The Morn of Guidance

"Truly, the Morn of Guidance commands the breeze to begin
All the world has been illuminated; every horizon; every people No more sits the Shaykh in the seat of hypocrisy
No more becomes the mosque a shop dispensing holiness
The tie of the turban will be cut at its source No Shaykh will remain,
neither glitter nor secrecy The world will be free from superstitions and vain imaginings
The people free from deception and temptation
Tyranny is destined for the arm of justice
Ignorance will be defeated by perception
The carpet of justice will be outspread everywhere
And the seeds of friendship and unity will be spread throughout
The false commands eradicated from the earth
The principle of opposition changed to that of unity." ~ Noghabai, Táhirih


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Re: The Mystic....

Postby Dennis Mahar » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:20 am

Because language is the 'say so' about the world.

Because language is a house that's lived in.

language as a cloud and one walks around with the head in the clouds.

because duality exists in language and because duality is a complete and utter catastrophe,

languaging is therefore the access to get in and get out of the conflict.

a language for the 'separate self' mode
and
a language for the 'one being' mode

running the modes turnabout
has the possibility of gestalting the situation

of catapulting one out of the grip of chatter

and 'seeing' what language does.

How can it be said 'the bus is late'
when the bus is in time.
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