Zen Rain Bows
Zen Rain Bows
Please present your Zen sayings here:
(And take a mango)
(And take a mango)
- David Quinn
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A Zen Buddhist goes into a...
"Make me one with everything!"
Oh, wait, that's a hot dog, not a mango.
Oh, wait, that's a hot dog, not a mango.
- David Quinn
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Setting up a seperate thread for Zen sayings is very deluded. It makes the same mistake as those Zen religions that create fixed rituals out of beating people with sticks, or handing out cliched Zen koans to meditate on. It robs Zen of its very essence.
It's a bit like setting up a thread for punchlines. A punchline is nothing without the rest of the joke, and in the same way, a Zen saying is nothing without the intellectual foundations which have been set up beforehand. The religion of Zen has made a ludicrous religion out of worshipping punchlines. We don't have to perpetuate that madness by doing the same.
A genuine Zen master introduces his Zen sayings informally and unobtrusively. He slides them into a situation unexpectantly, shocking the listener and stimulating his mind into greater insight. He doesn't loudly announce beforehand, "Attention everyone! I am about to introduce a Zen saying". It is the novelty and unexpectedness of the skilfully-introduced Zen saying which unsettles the mind and does its magic.
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It's a bit like setting up a thread for punchlines. A punchline is nothing without the rest of the joke, and in the same way, a Zen saying is nothing without the intellectual foundations which have been set up beforehand. The religion of Zen has made a ludicrous religion out of worshipping punchlines. We don't have to perpetuate that madness by doing the same.
A genuine Zen master introduces his Zen sayings informally and unobtrusively. He slides them into a situation unexpectantly, shocking the listener and stimulating his mind into greater insight. He doesn't loudly announce beforehand, "Attention everyone! I am about to introduce a Zen saying". It is the novelty and unexpectedness of the skilfully-introduced Zen saying which unsettles the mind and does its magic.
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- Matt Gregory
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- Matt Gregory
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