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Hello!
Please take a look at this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yehN-WUr5rY
Most spiritual people say there is no separation; that everything that appear separate aren't actually like independent entities but more like waves, which connects or fuses them with everything else seamlessly. Non-separation might even be the very definion of spirituality.
But if we look at this video, doesn't it seem like the droplet is somehow self-contained? That it, it is space in between the water and the droplet; there is no link between them, connecting them - doesn't that make the water and the droplet separate?
Most people these days agree that there is actually no time. That's not even controversial anymore. The Power of Now, and all that. But it takes some real guts and wisdom to suggest that there is no space.
What is your reason, if any, for non-separation? For why there is actually no space? The reason may be either philosophical or scientific, or both. Please use the example of the water and the water droplet.
Cheers, and thanks!
Please take a look at this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yehN-WUr5rY
Most spiritual people say there is no separation; that everything that appear separate aren't actually like independent entities but more like waves, which connects or fuses them with everything else seamlessly. Non-separation might even be the very definion of spirituality.
But if we look at this video, doesn't it seem like the droplet is somehow self-contained? That it, it is space in between the water and the droplet; there is no link between them, connecting them - doesn't that make the water and the droplet separate?
Most people these days agree that there is actually no time. That's not even controversial anymore. The Power of Now, and all that. But it takes some real guts and wisdom to suggest that there is no space.
What is your reason, if any, for non-separation? For why there is actually no space? The reason may be either philosophical or scientific, or both. Please use the example of the water and the water droplet.
Cheers, and thanks!
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Or not enough of it, anyway.Most people these days agree that there is actually no time.
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And he would be mistaken in his new-age pap drivel.
Consciousness (or the lack thereof) does not reside outside of the skull.
Consciousness (or the lack thereof) does not reside outside of the skull.
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That's not what he said.Consciousness (or the lack thereof) does not reside outside of the skull.
Although I do disagree with a lot of what he was saying.
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Saying that things are interconnected is not the same as saying that things are essentially a featureless jello. Boundaries exist, but they are not absolute. There is certainly contrast - that is the basis of all discrimination. I don't have an answer why ...
It is said that time and space are illusions. But that does not mean they are not real.
Oh yay, nihilism. It is a popular trend in theoretical physics to say there is no time. I suppose there's no monitor which I'm not looking at right now, because there's no me. It's nonsensical. Things are what they are. Time is time. Space is space.Is. wrote:Most people these days agree that there is actually no time. That's not even controversial anymore. The Power of Now, and all that. But it takes some real guts and wisdom to suggest that there is no space.
It is said that time and space are illusions. But that does not mean they are not real.
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That is what fascinates me. How is this possible?overmyhead wrote:Saying that things are interconnected is not the same as saying that things are essentially a featureless jello. Boundaries exist, but they are not absolute. There is certainly contrast - that is the basis of all discrimination.
If you take a look at the video I posted, it definitely seem like the droplet is a self-contained entity, and if it is a self-contained entity it can't be interconnected. (A self contained entity because it has space all around it, or so it seems.) Then all of the sudden it just disappears though, which means that it couldn't possibly be a self-contained entity. It's all very odd, isn't it?
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Not in so many words, but his whole statement is based around the false premise that consciousness is a shared field of awareness, although he himself does not fully understand that is what he is implying.overmyhead wrote:That's not what he said.Consciousness (or the lack thereof) does not reside outside of the skull.
Consciousness is an anomoly of nature occuring in the form of the brain, causality dictates the level of that consciousness, from sentience (perception of reality), to genius (perception of the nature of reality).
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Space is the life blood of the universe moving within a Something that is unknown. The human body itself is a replica of what space is on a meltdown scale.
Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa
Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa
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Ok, you keep believing it, shitweasel! You get to be like Laird. Prospects for enlightenment.
Bye now
Bye now
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When a persons height will not allow them to reach no higher than their ankles, please watch where you step people, it is not a bug down there it an animal. If you step on it, you just might be charged with cruelty to animals or murder.prince wrote:Ok, you keep believing it, shitweasel! You get to be like Laird. Prospects for enlightenment.
Bye now
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JUST TO ADD.
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SORRY! THIS PROCESS IS JUST A=A. I REGENERATED IT.
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Is.,Is. wrote:That is what fascinates me. How is this possible?overmyhead wrote:Saying that things are interconnected is not the same as saying that things are essentially a featureless jello. Boundaries exist, but they are not absolute. There is certainly contrast - that is the basis of all discrimination.
If you take a look at the video I posted, it definitely seem like the droplet is a self-contained entity, and if it is a self-contained entity it can't be interconnected. (A self contained entity because it has space all around it, or so it seems.) Then all of the sudden it just disappears though, which means that it couldn't possibly be a self-contained entity. It's all very odd, isn't it?
I don't get it. What is this drop got to do with anything?
I think it's just. Wow.
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So that explains the breadth and depth of human achievement? An anomaly of nature?prince wrote:Consciousness is an anomoly of nature occuring in the form of the brain, causality dictates the level of that consciousness, from sentience (perception of reality), to genius (perception of the nature of reality).
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No Cousinbasil it does not explain anything but ones stubborness to speak words without definition for or about the words they speak.cousinbasil wrote:So that explains the breadth and depth of human achievement? An anomaly of nature?prince wrote:Consciousness is an anomoly of nature occuring in the form of the brain, causality dictates the level of that consciousness, from sentience (perception of reality), to genius (perception of the nature of reality).
And no, it does not explain the breadth and depth of human achievement because even in hollywood it is stated in order for movie to be complete it must have three dimensions, length, breadth, and height, so it is with life and living. And I put forth in order for any one of these dimensions to have dominance over the other cannot be left out of the equation because each dimension is dependent upon the balance of the other to function equally with normacy of volume.
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And still you need those special 3D glasses.jufa wrote:And no, it does not explain the breadth and depth of human achievement because even in hollywood it is stated in order for movie to be complete it must have three dimensions, length, breadth, and height,
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You mean Motor Car as people-mover, or poisoner of environment...?cousinbasil wrote:So that explains the breadth and depth of human achievement? An anomaly of nature?prince wrote:Consciousness is an anomoly of nature occuring in the form of the brain, causality dictates the level of that consciousness, from sentience (perception of reality), to genius (perception of the nature of reality).
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I meant Indoor Plumbing. And don't say "poisoner of environment" again, it's moronic. The shit has to go somewhere. Besides, that would be implying that the very concept of carbon footprint was made by a mere anomaly, as was the Golden Gate Bridge and a few lunar landings. I am not claiming to have answers, but at least I do not dismiss the questions.prince wrote:You mean Motor Car as people-mover, or poisoner of environment...?
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What was used before 3Dglasses? There still was the length, breadth, and height.cousinbasil wrote:And still you need those special 3D glasses.jufa wrote:And no, it does not explain the breadth and depth of human achievement because even in hollywood it is stated in order for movie to be complete it must have three dimensions, length, breadth, and height,
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Uh, it was a joke? Referring to the fact that movies are 2D...?jufa wrote:What was used before 3Dglasses? There still was the length, breadth, and height.cousinbasil wrote:And still you need those special 3D glasses.jufa wrote:And no, it does not explain the breadth and depth of human achievement because even in hollywood it is stated in order for movie to be complete it must have three dimensions, length, breadth, and height,
Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa
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If by "that shit" you mean emissions, yes it goes somewhere, up into the atmosphere, hence damaged ozone. Hence humans being an anomaly, (destroying the ecosystem that gave rise to and sustains them)cousinbasil wrote:I meant Indoor Plumbing. And don't say "poisoner of environment" again, it's moronic. The shit has to go somewhere.prince wrote:You mean Motor Car as people-mover, or poisoner of environment...?
Does nature care if your house and belongings are wiped out, and your children drown in a tsunami.cousinbasil wrote: the very concept of carbon footprint was made by a mere anomaly,
Stamp your feet, be indignant, but at the end of the day, nature don't give a rat's ass.
Anomaly.
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As I see it, an anomaly coming to be in the flow of universal causality is a binary contradiction.
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I am not indignant - I am impatient. With your inability to see the contradiction in your position.prince wrote:Stamp your feet, be indignant, but at the end of the day, nature don't give a rat's ass.
You say consciousness is anomaly of nature because nature is indifferent to man's efforts at self-preservation. Since all life exhibits characteristics of self-preservation, you must therefore logically regard all life as an anomaly of nature. After all, instead of confining itself to environments with temperate conditions - which it has not exhausted - life has forged its way into more hostile regions and developed mechanisms for adaptation and therefore survival.
But since life is a part of nature, it cannot be an anomaly, as it is found everywhere, even on the bottom of the deepest oceans. Its very ubiquity precludes it from being considered some kind of perturbation in a nonliving world.
But even if it were an anomaly, why has it occurred? Why does all of life differ so markedly from the rest of nature - to the extent that you would consider it an anomaly?
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Yes, because ultimately there is no life. Nature (and by extension the Totality) ensures that sentience is obliterated. Just as 99.9999% of all species that ever existed on this little blue planet are now extinct. So too will homo-sapien inevitably become extinct. It is a futile endeavour.cousinbasil wrote:You say consciousness is anomaly of nature because nature is indifferent to man's efforts at self-preservation. Since all life exhibits characteristics of self-preservation, you must therefore logically regard all life as an anomaly of nature.
Because homo-sapiens combined fire with raw carcass meat, which provided a massive injection of protein into the brain, thusly humans were able, to a degree conquer aspects of nature for a while (warmth, shelter, ease of digestion, et cetera..).cousinbasil wrote:But even if it were an anomaly, why has it occurred?
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No links to support this extinction figure, so I will ignore it. And you might as well say that since the sun will go nova one day, I needn't bother going to work today. In an absurdist sense, everything is futile, but so what?prince wrote:Yes, because ultimately there is no life. Nature (and by extension the Totality) ensures that sentience is obliterated. Just as 99.9999% of all species that ever existed on this little blue planet are now extinct. So too will homo-sapien inevitably become extinct. It is a futile endeavour.