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Elizabeth Isabelle
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Music loses its point without emotion, and lyrics just seem like a slow way to communicate an idea. It is much more efficient to read well constructed sentances.
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I need to listen to this for a long time before I get it more I think. It's very obvious to me that he is baring his soul at a deep level...which is the same as my own. I have felt the things he's conveying emotionally...I came to feel them from my writing of poetry. I would almost do automatic writing...putting down any word that came to mind...which is probably what started me on the whole search for truth in the first place. John's music makes sense to me but the lyrics don't necessarily...they seem like he was trying too hard to convey the point. Like he was searching intensely for a way to explain his fascination with truthfulness of emotion.

I think his music is what the masculinity described here is all about - an intense yearning for the divine....whatever that is. One must be pretty masculine to throw their whole life away for the sake of this type of music and feeling. You have to be very passionate, and not passive. You would never see a feminine minded person write something like this - or become obsessed with an album like this.

An interesting thing is that this music seems to activate my kundalini slightly. Not suggesting that was an intended purpose...I think it's because of the honesty of emotion conveyed.

Thanks for telling me a bit about your background with the album. It's cool to learn a bit more about you, Cory.
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I need to listen to this for a long time before I get it more I think. It's very obvious to me that he is baring his soul at a deep level...which is the same as my own. I have felt the things he's conveying emotionally...I came to feel them from my writing of poetry. I would almost do automatic writing
Yeah, he has admited to interviews that sometimes he doesnt even really understand what he is writing.

Sometimes I feel like I understand john and his lyrics better than he does.

I can recall reading about something socrates said about the poets - how the cryptic poets of athens had often spoke truths that they don't understand.

I think John is like that.

But then again, Nietzche once said something about how it is not uncommon for people to write in this really ambigious, crypitc and vague way, only because they are really just shallow and don't have much to say.

John is a bit shallow and superficial in some respects, but compared to all his contemporaries, such as the likes of Dave Navaro and others, he is like Jesus amongst corrupt devils.
I would almost do automatic writing...putting down any word that came to mind...which is probably what started me on the whole search for truth in the first place.
I would also do automatic writing myself when I was in my late teens, I would just write this crazy cryptic slop of ambiguity, hoping that it meant something spiritual, hoping that it meant that i had access to an unconscious resevoir of genius that was always there. I think doing that sort of thing is, like you said, just an indication that the individual is longing for divinity and is preparing for it. Some say that its an indictation that one is a spoiled narcisistic child too though, so...... ;)

John's music makes sense to me but the lyrics don't necessarily...they seem like he was trying too hard to convey the point. Like he was searching intensely for a way to explain his fascination with truthfulness of emotion.
Well, the lyrics mean something very specific to me, but thats only because I meditated upon them quite a bit, and spend alot of time thinking about what they meant. And hey, if there are any lyrics that you find particularly bewildering, let me know which ones, and I'll tell you what I think it means, then you can see if I'm really just a crazy fanatic ;)

to me the whole album is an attempt to capture and display the meaning and significane of what he called 'a proccess', one that involved a remergence from a very passionte, confused, and single minded attempt at renouncing established meanings, and friendships in an effort to become more spiritually evolved.

The album kind of maps out a dark journey, and provides an outlet for getting out emotions that normally never emerge do to the general conditioning.
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Post by Jamesh »

Rodriguez is timeless music, here's an mp3.

http://www.sonicx.com/Sixto_Rodriguez/


And a song that is close to my all time favourite.

Sugarcubes - Birthday. The singer is Bjork before she went solo and lost the punk rock attittude. Beautifully raw song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPsalRStVko
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Sufjan Stevens is another favourite of mine.

He's an interesting character. He's planning on recording an album for every state in America. So far, he's recorded two damn good ones (Michigan and Illinois).

Some mp3s

http://www.3hive.com/2004/03/sufjan_stevens.php
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Post by Leyla Shen »

Steven:
Actually that version was off of Electric Lady Land (Track 4, I think).
I'm sure it was quite different. Though I couldn't guarantee my imagination had nothing to do with that.


Regarding Vegemite

Excerpt from EI's linked article:
"The border guard asked us if we were carrying any Vegemite," Mr Fogarty said.
Stuff was more potent than Hendrix.
[laaaaaughs] Apparently you Americans think so!

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:)
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Not as high quality as the rest of the stuff...these are songs I recorded. Some a couple of years ago and some about a month ago.

http://www.esnips.com/web/ScottsMusic
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Post by Blair »

I find this whole movie sequence very well done, and the two songs are great

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2BgrgDmbRs
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Scott, despite the crappy speakers at work here, I like "But You Draw Me In." Reminds me a bit of this lot (tho not this particular track--trying to remember the one...it'll come to me!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1IjtZ-BZiY

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Post by Ryan Rudolph »

This video is rather lowbrow and vulgar, but I still enjoy it:

Youtube


And here is another funny one of will ferrell up to his old tricks again in Anchorman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d08sQ0snxAU

Conan OBrian is a decent comedian:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHv8IACW ... ed&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3A0VD68 ... ed&search=

its too bad that this one is incomplete because it's his best skit ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRuI1G01rzE
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Thanks Leyla.
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Post by Leyla Shen »

Tonight, you and Pear Song at home (much clearer) reminded me of Bernard Fanning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liVEebKyZf0

Heard Powderfinger? Top, top Aus band. Favourite favourite tracks: The Day You Come and Thrilloilogy.

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Post by Leyla Shen »

Hm. Why isn't "But You Draw Me In" working?

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It works for me....I've never heard of Powderfinger. That Bernard Fanning song was good.
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Oops I did it again, I indulged in a little 1990s childhood nostagia, This next batch expresses the confusion, alienation, sadness, and yearnings for deeper meaning and freedom of this time period:

Blind Melon – No Rain - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfh4BjqLywI

Tom Petty – Mary’s Jane’s Last Dance - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JAVMy_gBvI

John Mellencamp – Human wheels - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk-1JlMMhZ4

Pet Shop Boys – Go West - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALf0vTcbJfA

Enigma – Return to Innocence - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgK6Skfz ... ed&search=

Ace of Base – All that she wants - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZBZBsTed6A

Nirvana – Lithium - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUUHNf0S5cA

Nirvana – Something in the Way - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4KanZJOPRk

Nirvana – Come as you are - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9nmRYb23LE

Greenday – Basketcase - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyiBabx0eWY

Greenday – Longview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRWeGIXlRQA

Smashing pumpkins – disarm - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgwjd7Xz ... ed&search=

Smashing Pumpkins – Bullet with butterfly wings - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NS0z8b4 ... ed&search=

Rage against the machine - Bullet In The Head - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL9NJt50dZg

Metallica – Until it sleeps - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmDU_O3DKVo

Red hot chili peppers – give it away - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56cW66dGamY

Collective soul - The world I know - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMFcfwVt-qc

Alice in Chains - Nutshell Unplugged - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylDMw7r0XB8

Offspring - Self Esteem - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qie1JEFPfc
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Post by Jamesh »

Came across this poem this morning - quite like it, albeit simple.

Samurai Song

When I had no roof I made Audacity my roof.
When I had No supper my eyes dined.

When I had no eyes I listened.
When I had no ears I thought.
When I had no thought I waited.

When I had no father I made Care my father.
When I had No mother I embraced order.

When I had no friend I made Quiet my friend.
When I had no Enemy I opposed my body.

When I had no temple I made My voice my temple.
I have No priest, my tongue is my choir.

When I have no means fortune Is my means.
When I have Nothing, death will be my fortune.

Need is my tactic, detachment Is my strategy.
When I had No lover I courted my sleep.
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Post by Elizabeth Isabelle »

some mellow metal Chad Vangaalen - Flower Gardens
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Post by Steven Coyle »

Good God!

Beck - 1000 BPM

Fresh Hella Dope Funk!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C80VjdnlSK0
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Post by Jamesh »

My favourite song of the last month or so is actually an original song from an Australian Idol contestant. Bobby Flynn - The Boy Had Trouble. People say he reminds them of Nick Drake. He is the most atypical Idol contestant that I've seen. I'm even prepared to forgo the embarassment of admitting I sometimes watch Idol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao_hYn-LKyg

or a song you'd know

When the War is Over
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGF2nc51Udk&NR
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The Inhumanity!

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What a thing to do to to a cultural hero! Captain Kirk sings Lucy in the Sky - Sorta
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Post by Elizabeth Isabelle »

Dan, that was disgusting.

Here's something to get that sound out. (no video, but good song):
Voodoo, by Godsmack
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