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Sick and tired of hearing about 911? Well, I don't care. :-P
I think this is important news. The house that Jack built, is starting to collapse. eheheh

The National Institute for Standards and Technology Admits Total Collapse Of Twin Towers “Unexplainable”
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Honestly, you need a remedial education in logic and comprehension.
The National Institute for Standards and Technology has been forced to admit that the total free-fall collapse of the twin towers cannot be explained after an exhaustive scientific study, implicitly acknowledging that controlled demolition is the only means by which the buildings could have come down.
How laughable. That's as bad if not worse that the nonsense politicians toss at us. People should be imprisoned for this sort of propagandist drivel. Illogic of this dimension really ought be held in utter contempt by everyone. And I say that as someone who doesn't believe the official version of that day's events.
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Dan Rowden wrote:Honestly, you need a remedial education in logic and comprehension.
The National Institute for Standards and Technology has been forced to admit that the total free-fall collapse of the twin towers cannot be explained after an exhaustive scientific study, implicitly acknowledging that controlled demolition is the only means by which the buildings could have come down.
How laughable. That's as bad if not worse that the nonsense politicians toss at us. People should be imprisoned for this sort of propagandist drivel. Illogic of this dimension really ought be held in utter contempt by everyone. And I say that as someone who doesn't believe the official version of that day's events.
Dan: What do you mean by : "That's" and "This sort". That 911 was not a inside job or that NIST did not admit to anything and the article is lieying? Which one is the lie? Or both theories are = that sort of propogandist drivel?

Not trolling, genuine questions.
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I like the way that report says "It cannot be explained", and then in the very same sentence says "the only possible explanation is controlled demolition".

Great logic!

I can easily explain the free-fall. The internal core collapsed first, and that was followed by the rest of the building.
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Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. There's a name for this logical fallacy that I can't recall. Trevor will probably know. It's just bad logic, basically.
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Dan Rowden wrote:Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. There's a name for this logical fallacy that I can't recall. Trevor will probably know. It's just bad logic, basically.
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Kevin Solway wrote:I like the way that report says "It cannot be explained", and then in the very same sentence says "the only possible explanation is controlled demolition".

Great logic!

I can easily explain the free-fall. The internal core collapsed first, and that was followed by the rest of the building.
Must have been rusty I guess? The core I mean... "They did not used to make them like we do now right?" Just kind of all fell apart :-S I think I know where Osama bin Laden (red flag lol) is, he was on board of one of those planes... that is why the whole world is looking for him and have not found him yet.... ok maybe I am wrong about that but...

I finally figured out what are RFIDs (another one lol) are for... We all get chipped and the one who is not chipped is OSAMA BIN LADDEN! = Pure genius logic!
I can easily explain the free-fall.
I will just trust you easily. I am so gullible that I will just believe you on the spot.. pls don't explain?
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hsandman wrote:Must have been rusty i guess?
Probably the pesky government melting the steel with undetectable chemicals! :-)
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Kevin Solway wrote:
hsandman wrote:Must have been rusty i guess?
Probably the pesky government melting the steel with undetectable chemicals! :-)
Sulfur oxide is very sneaky!
People should be imprisoned for this sort of propagandist drivel.
I belive we will be, lol
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I don't think the core collapsing, first or otherwise, quite explains things.

Core

That did not pancake at free fall. It just didn't, dammit.
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hsandman wrote:
Dan wrote:People should be imprisoned for this sort of propagandist drivel.
I belive we will be, lol
Well, I don't think so, but that kind of horrible logic deserves to be near enough to a felony offense.
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Dan Rowden wrote:I don't think the core collapsing, first or otherwise, quite explains things.

Core

That did not pancake at free fall. It just didn't, dammit.
Dan: http://blog.lege.net/content/20060721_h ... cture5.jpg <- bad address, return to server! :-) link down...
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Kevin Solway wrote:
hsandman wrote:Must have been rusty i guess?
Probably the pesky government melting the steel with undetectable chemicals! :-)
You mean pesky Zionists, surely.
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hsandman wrote:
Dan Rowden wrote:I don't think the core collapsing, first or otherwise, quite explains things.

Core

That did not pancake at free fall. It just didn't, dammit.
Dan: http://blog.lege.net/content/20060721_h ... cture5.jpg <- bad address, return to server! :-) link down...
It works for me. Try this instead: Trade Centre Core Pic
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Dan: That works for me http://blog.lege.net/content/20060721_h ... cture5.jpg

Yup. Bad workmanship! Damn imigrants.. no skill to build a proper,strong building!
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Key to mental resilience found.

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hsandman wrote:Sick and tired of hearing about 911? Well, I don't care. :-P
I think this is important news. The house that Jack built, is starting to collapse. eheheh

The National Institute for Standards and Technology Admits Total Collapse Of Twin Towers “Unexplainable”
<sniff> Smell that? the change in the wind? I remembered the smell of media pandering to the presidency of LBJ during the Goldwater campaign. I smelled the shift too as media realized Nixon was vulnerable because of Watergate. And smelled the familiar pandering to Bush after 9/11/01. And now.... the change in the wind again since Bush has only 15 months left, and they've decided to replace him with Hillary.

Last year at this time, the NIST website promised to have a report posted on the fall of WTC 7 in the spring of 07. We are still waiting.... <sniff> The bureaucrats are squirming, aware that Bush will not be able to protect their rectal orifices much longer, and not wanting to say anything that will get them crucified by the next administration.

Do you doubt that Americans could kill other Americans? Read the studies on obedience by Stanley Milgram. Do you doubt the media could lie? Read the studies on group think. It lies to itself all the time.
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Cinema Fiction vs. Physics Reality

Ghosts, Vampires, and Zombies. Those who consider the paranormal possible should read this article.

At first the U.S. federal officers thought they had stumbled upon a shipment of heroin. The suspicious package they intercepted last year [2000], en route from Japan to a private address in the US contained several vials packed with a white crystalline powder. But on-the-spot tests revealed that it was no narcotic. It took a while for forensic scientists at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California to identify a sample, and what they found was alarming. The powder turned out to be tetrodotoxin (TTX): one of the deadliest poisons on Earth.

I'm damn curious about why somone would import this. For making some sort of rohypnol product perhaps?
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Sex in the Dollhouse

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Dolls lose their innocence

Thongs, high heels and caked-on makeup. 'Penthouse'? No, your child's dollhouse
http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/ne ... 57.art.htm


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All of the collapses were manufactured by someone. Mainly proved by the collapse of building 7. I don't think we can gain the information that we need to solve this problem. We only have a philosophical point of view. American War Money is my preference at the moment, with the information that I have. So deliberately demolished by American Government is my answer. It's about 30% accurate only.
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Kogi's - quite an interesting tribe.

http://www.eremite.demon.co.uk/Tairona/ ... elcos.html

But the utmost achievement of the soul consists on becoming seiváke during the person's lifetime and in wandering over seivákein géina during the afterlife. To be truly reborn (ishkuéldyi ), the soul must have arrived at a state of innocence like that of an uninitiated boy. This image of the 'pure' boy is very elaborate and is described as a state of youthful perfection (zueldúxa ). The concept of purity refers above all to sexual innocence and emphasis is placed upon the boyish image as something 'whole, complete, perfect like a child'. Another condition of the state of seiváke is called nakuíza , meaning 'he who forgot'. A seiváke person must have forgotten everything he has learned during his life, a state that must be achieved by an intentional mental effort at unlearning and thus returning to a childlike state. A third condition of seiváke is called sui séishi , 'to feel cold'. The person must have mastered all emotions such as passion, lust, sorrow, and anger. A priest said: "The body must become all thought. There must be no thoughts of women, no thoughts of a body that has orifices." So seiváke means cold, virginal, innocent; it stands for thoughts devoid of all sensuality, unaware of, or rather, beyond sex. In summary, the person must lose his or her individuality."

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Pincho Paxton wrote:All of the collapses were manufactured by someone. Mainly proved by the collapse of building 7. I don't think we can gain the information that we need to solve this problem. We only have a philosophical point of view. American War Money is my preference at the moment, with the information that I have. So deliberately demolished by American Government is my answer. It's about 30% accurate only.
For sure the info we have is so flawed that 30% is about as much as we can hope for. If the economy keeps on like always, this will all fade into history like the JFK assassination. But if not, I'd expect it to be opened up to provide the needed scapegoats. Not that they dont deserve being dragged out, charged with treason, and shot.

But I dunno that unraveling 911 is going to solve the problem. 911 is a symptom of systemic corruption, not the disease, the "American Malaise" Carter spoke of. Back then, we should have gotten our energy consumption under control, but it was too easy to sell SUVs to feed egos. The war money you refer to, while it has intrinsic profits, was intended to get control also to oil money. I dont see that that succeeded.
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Tomas wrote:.
Dolls lose their innocence
Thongs, high heels and caked-on makeup. 'Penthouse'? No, your child's dollhouse
http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/ne ... 57.art.htm.
Have you seen the "Girls Gone Wild" videos? I dont think they were even paid for displaying their sexual attributes, or performing sex acts on stage.

Remarkable. A whore or porn star at least makes money at it. I dont see anything that men can do about it either. Bare midriffs? Miniskirts? No panties? we have been there before. Look up the "Egtved girl" found in Denmark from the bronze age. http://home20.inet.tele.dk/anni/egtved/Engelsk.htm

Or- consider Tacitus, who reports on a Celt's rebuttal to the charge of wantonness:"We Celts consort with the best of men in public, while you Roman wives do so in secret with the most vile." There is an interest by young women today in their Celtic roots just as Native Americans have tried to recover theirs. "Nuclear family values" are being abandoned.

Its the Almighty Dollar, not Jesus, in charge. Young women, age 21-30, now make more money than young men. Young men no longer earn enough money to support a family. Capitalism has realized that it can pay women less than men, and therefore make more profit. So, they fire the men, and hire the women.

That is the American way is it not? And if there is profit in making little girls into sluts, then that is what American capitalism will do. The women make the money, and money is power, and power is an aphrodisiac. For women as well.

At least you can teach the girls to properly use birth control. that way, they wont be coming back to raise the bastards in your house.
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comments interspersed :-|




-Tomas-
Dolls lose their innocence
Thongs, high heels and caked-on makeup. 'Penthouse'? No, your child's dollhouse
http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/ne ... 57.art.htm.




-daybrown-
Have you seen the "Girls Gone Wild" videos? I dont think they were even paid for displaying their sexual attributes, or performing sex acts on stage.

-tomas-
No, i haven't but heard enough that i know if i watched, wouldn't be missing anything.




-daybrown-
Remarkable. A whore or porn star at least makes money at it. I dont see anything that men can do about it either. Bare midriffs? Miniskirts? No panties? we have been there before. Look up the "Egtved girl" found in Denmark from the bronze age. http://home20.inet.tele.dk/anni/egtved/Engelsk.htm

-tomas-
Uff-Dah!




-daybrown-
Or- consider Tacitus, who reports on a Celt's rebuttal to the charge of wantonness:"We Celts consort with the best of men in public, while you Roman wives do so in secret with the most vile." There is an interest by young women today in their Celtic roots just as Native Americans have tried to recover theirs. "Nuclear family values" are being abandoned.

-tomas-
Sure, we've been (and still are) 'foster parents' for many a kids, the level of depravity has always been there :-(

The upside is when i go back to North Dakota and hang with the Native Americans and watch them hold onto (best they can) their belief systems - whitey has had such a corrosive "influence" on their culture i don't know if they will truly make it intact with their culture, social mores etc.




-daybrown-
Its the Almighty Dollar, not Jesus, in charge. Young women, age 21-30, now make more money than young men. Young men no longer earn enough money to support a family. Capitalism has realized that it can pay women less than men, and therefore make more "profit." So, they fire the men, and hire the women.

-tomas-
The Roman Catholic Church still has a vise-like grip around their collective throats though, that ain't changing much. The papal system (black pope jesuits) is adept at going into native cultures and "twisting" beliefs to change into Catholicism's nasty habits.

Example being: adapting their totem pole to the roman cross -ergo- egyptian mysteries.

Obelisk (erect penis) with the sign of the woman (cross) atop said obelisk... the the bells (baal) ringing denoting orgasm.

Same with the Capital Dome (dame) fully prepared to "take" the obelisk that awaits entry.

Washington DC and the 555 foot obelisk near the Capital Dame (dome)
+ 55-1/2 across and the length of 55-1/2 + 555 = 666 ft.

Orders from Vatican a long time ago...

You see it everywhere with the bells ringing and the obelisk above and the cross atop all.

Churches, temples, pagodas, and muslim , all religions ... even totem native american and maya, inca




-daybrown-
That is the American way is it not? And if there is profit in making little girls into sluts, then that is what American capitalism will do. The women make the money, and money is power, and power is an aphrodisiac. For women as well.

-tomas-
Sad, the deliberate destruction of the past illusion to a more profound illusion of brave new world.




-daybrown-
At least you can teach the girls to properly use birth control. that way, they wont be coming back to raise the bastards in your house.

-tomas-
Yeah, fortunately our girls have turned out "normal" whatever the heck that means to an aging boomer-coot like me.

ps- well, it's off to the local police department and ride with the cops . Doing a split-shift with them. The horrors are about to begin. See how the other half lives, copes, tries to make it till ...


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I am doing really well for someone my age Tomas. Thanx. In my neck of Ozark woods, its all Cherokee mixed with Scots/Irish with increasing numbers trying to reclaim their Cherokee spiritual traditions since the latter was so corrupted by Christianity.

Altho, there is some effort a 'neo-paganism', or whatever you want to call it as well. This is still small family farm type country, so I dont see the consumerism, and dont see the young women dressing like sluts. Not that I know very many. But since so many have abandoned Christianity, you dont see the prudery either.

I dont see them act in wanton ways, but neither do I hear criticism of women that do. There seems to be more of a 'dont ask, dont tell', your sex life, or lack thereof, is your business.
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