WHAT ARE we GOING TO DO?

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NobodyListens2Genius wrote:Oxy


Everything you said is completely correct, and I agree that NOTHING is being done. If anything it is only getting worse, I can't imagine how much longer our species survives at this rate. So then how do we give people this understanding? How do we free them from a system that is designed to hold them down at every turn?
italic: Could go on for a long time - no point in speculating.

bold: You can't*. *If you knew the odds you wouldn't even entertain this idea. Best to worry about the quality of your own life (knowing you will have to deal with social systems).

Another post here, some interaction in the real world, and watching reports on the presidential campaign crap (US) on the compelled me to add the following: The primitive* element of the species, will always bring things down to a lower level that, will make the proper (ideal of real; individual sovereignty) impossible. The tactics play out, in such a way, as to force more rational people to have to play down to the primitive level.
*These are the people who capitalize on ignorance and help to propagate it. They look at others as targets, or cogs to leverage. They use simplistic fallacious arguments, to rationalize what they do. These arguments only work on the average person, who has little time (by choice really - because they buy into the propaganda and spend their life on the treadmill), and are easily picked apart. Those who rely on them, count on numbers of ignorant - so dressing them down on the intellectual mat, has little overall affect (just confusing/frightened the person putting forth the propaganda - if they believe it - a zealot**, or frightening/enraging the cynical con artist**, whom you have just intellectually pants)

**often a person born into privilege, who never questions how things actually work - or they are purely cynical social climbers. Historical examples abound. A perfect one would be the US slave industry (the cotton industry that was huge - to which the north's industries helped supply - nice hypocrisy) of the old south. Many of the people thought they were in the right, and the heaps of money they were making was justification of their own deluded self image. The people who benefited from this, were willing to go to war, to keep the institution in place. They were willing to buy into the fallacy of black people as sub human - to justify their practice, or they were just cynical scum capitalizing in a most brutal fashion. Both types HATE having things questioned and brought out into plain view! This example, and the underlying mechanics of it, are common. Sometimes it is obviously unacceptable and people eventually fight it (as in the example above). Other times it is far more subtle, and people are unable to see it.

So I reiterate this with emphasis: Worry about the quality of your own life. You will not see this get better in you life time - and the odds (enormousness, huge - these adjectives are completely inadequate) are that it never will.
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Humorous piece on serious topics. The speed at which data is mined and processed now - real privacy is virtually dead.
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We could start making the world a better place by forming alliances with countries that understand the differences between men and women and opposing their enemies.

That means we should side with the Muslims in the Middle East and oppose Zionist Israel.
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NobodyListens2Genius wrote:Geniuses have a way of solving impossible issues simply. Ideas?
Yes we do however we have to watch out for the possibility of being assassinated.

Eating animal products is the root of all problems on this planet.

The only way to change the world is to show everyone that we aren't omnivores with impossible to dispute scientific facts.

Then we as a group can start growing and eating foods which balance our neurotransmitter levels instead of going after artificial neurotransmitter stimulators like drugs, alcohol, television, porn and music, which over-stimulate the neurotransmitters receptors temporarily and cause a significant drop in neurotransmitters, depression/boredom, when the artificial stimulation comes to a halt. A continuous addictive vicious cycle.

The only things people need are.. food, shelter, sunshine(Vitamin D's), socialize, be active and sex.

In time, I will take out the system like an AIDS virus.
Gremln wrote:We could start making the world a better place by forming alliances with countries that understand the differences between men and women and opposing their enemies.

That means we should side with the Muslims in the Middle East and oppose Zionist Israel.
Please stop judging a country for what the psychopathic politicians DO. People in each country follow like blind sheep because they do not know the Truth. Understand that the majority of people do want to grow as long as they know the Truth in simple to understand facts without any information to contradict it with. No bias.
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Just burn stuff to the ground randomly and replace your human face with that of an animal, or maybe some bark. Then gut yourself live stream for people to masturbate to.. yee ye ye
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mental vagrant wrote:Just burn stuff to the ground randomly and replace your human face with that of an animal, or maybe some bark. Then gut yourself live stream for people to masturbate to.. yee ye ye
Go get some prozac immediately or go back to masturbating to porn.
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Heh.. anti-depressants create a lame veil that masks the bigger picture everything becomes little highs and lows, no longer think it is worth it. Porn is a cheap necessity to forget my genitals work.

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Consistency wrote:
NobodyListens2Genius wrote:Geniuses have a way of solving impossible issues simply. Ideas?
Yes we do however we have to watch out for the possibility of being assassinated.

Eating animal products is the root of all problems on this planet.

The only way to change the world is to show everyone that we aren't omnivores with impossible to dispute scientific facts.

Then we as a group can start growing and eating foods which balance our neurotransmitter levels instead of going after artificial neurotransmitter stimulators like drugs, alcohol, television, porn and music, which over-stimulate the neurotransmitters receptors temporarily and cause a significant drop in neurotransmitters, depression/boredom, when the artificial stimulation comes to a halt. A continuous addictive vicious cycle.

The only things people need are.. food, shelter, sunshine(Vitamin D's), socialize, be active and sex.

In time, I will take out the system like an AIDS virus.
Gremln wrote:We could start making the world a better place by forming alliances with countries that understand the differences between men and women and opposing their enemies.

That means we should side with the Muslims in the Middle East and oppose Zionist Israel.
Please stop judging a country for what the psychopathic politicians DO. People in each country follow like blind sheep because they do not know the Truth. Understand that the majority of people do want to grow as long as they know the Truth in simple to understand facts without any information to contradict it with. No bias.
What a load of fucking bullshit.
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oxytocinNA wrote:
NobodyListens2Genius wrote:Oxy


Everything you said is completely correct, and I agree that NOTHING is being done. If anything it is only getting worse, I can't imagine how much longer our species survives at this rate. So then how do we give people this understanding? How do we free them from a system that is designed to hold them down at every turn?
italic: Could go on for a long time - no point in speculating.

bold: You can't*. *If you knew the odds you wouldn't even entertain this idea. Best to worry about the quality of your own life (knowing you will have to deal with social systems).

Another post here, some interaction in the real world, and watching reports on the presidential campaign crap (US) on the compelled me to add the following: The primitive* element of the species, will always bring things down to a lower level that, will make the proper (ideal of real; individual sovereignty) impossible. The tactics play out, in such a way, as to force more rational people to have to play down to the primitive level.
*These are the people who capitalize on ignorance and help to propagate it. They look at others as targets, or cogs to leverage. They use simplistic fallacious arguments, to rationalize what they do. These arguments only work on the average person, who has little time (by choice really - because they buy into the propaganda and spend their life on the treadmill), and are easily picked apart. Those who rely on them, count on numbers of ignorant - so dressing them down on the intellectual mat, has little overall affect (just confusing/frightened the person putting forth the propaganda - if they believe it - a zealot**, or frightening/enraging the cynical con artist**, whom you have just intellectually pants)

**often a person born into privilege, who never questions how things actually work - or they are purely cynical social climbers. Historical examples abound. A perfect one would be the US slave industry (the cotton industry that was huge - to which the north's industries helped supply - nice hypocrisy) of the old south. Many of the people thought they were in the right, and the heaps of money they were making was justification of their own deluded self image. The people who benefited from this, were willing to go to war, to keep the institution in place. They were willing to buy into the fallacy of black people as sub human - to justify their practice, or they were just cynical scum capitalizing in a most brutal fashion. Both types HATE having things questioned and brought out into plain view! This example, and the underlying mechanics of it, are common. Sometimes it is obviously unacceptable and people eventually fight it (as in the example above). Other times it is far more subtle, and people are unable to see it.

So I reiterate this with emphasis: Worry about the quality of your own life. You will not see this get better in you life time - and the odds (enormousness, huge - these adjectives are completely inadequate) are that it never will.

The irony is as human populations reach a point where more exist at one point than in history, our collapse will cause more suffering to us than in all previous misery, there is little mercy.
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mental vagrant wrote:Heh.. anti-depressants create a lame veil that masks the bigger picture everything becomes little highs and lows, no longer think it is worth it. Porn is a cheap necessity to forget my genitals work.

-_-
I wouldn't know since I've never taken them however its obvious from your incomprehensive writing that your brain needs help nutritionally and/or psychiatrically.
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Consistency wrote:
mental vagrant wrote:Heh.. anti-depressants create a lame veil that masks the bigger picture everything becomes little highs and lows, no longer think it is worth it. Porn is a cheap necessity to forget my genitals work.

-_-
I wouldn't know since I've never taken them however its obvious from your incomprehensive writing that your brain needs help nutritionally and/or psychiatrically.
You're hilarious.

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