Should the US Constitution's electoral college be repealed?

[sear]

Should the U.S. Constitution's electoral college be repealed?

The electoral college (ec) seems to advantage the Republican party.
How much of an advantage?
More than 3 to one, according to law professor Lani Guinier.

"It's not just whether your vote counts, but whether your vote counts equally. An electoral college vote in Wyoming was worth 71,000 voters. In Florida one electoral college vote was worth 238,000 voters. ... that not only violates one person, one vote; but also violates the principle of democracy ... " Lani Guinier

Should the ec be repealed? Or does the powerful advantage simply help the otherwise so woefully inadequate Republicans that it simply wouldn't be fair to them without it?

[Carl G]

I believe it should be repealed. The main reason is that the traditional election process itself has been usurped by the uncheckable power (programming) of the electronic voting machine. Cursory evidence seems to indicate that by shifting a number of votes in a few key contests during the last two elections (well, the first one included paper ballots with their famous "hanging chads") the outcomes were altered.

Secondly I'm not sure the Constitution itself is still in effect. Is it? Was it ever?

[brad walker]

Amnesia?

[Dan Rowden]

Hmm, that explains the deja vu.

[Carl G]

Good one, Brad. What a laugh. I even responded with pretty much the same comment as here.

[Unidian]

Yes, flush it.

[Tomas]

Should the U.S. Constitution's electoral college be repealed?

The electoral college (ec) seems to advantage the Republican party.
How much of an advantage?
More than 3 to one, according to law professor Lani Guinier.

"It's not just whether your vote counts, but whether your vote counts equally. An electoral college vote in Wyoming was worth 71,000 voters. In Florida one electoral college vote was worth 238,000 voters. ... that not only violates one person, one vote; but also violates the principle of democracy ... " Lani Guinier

Should the ec be repealed? Or does the powerful advantage simply help the otherwise so woefully inadequate Republicans that it simply wouldn't be fair to them without it?

Who fawking cares?



Tomas (the tank)
VietNam veteran - 1971




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[Dan Rowden]

Wow, I think you just defined irony with that response, Tomas, given your general posting proclivities.

[hsandman]

Tomas
Whom fawking carez?/

Hsandman

Not, I.

[Tomas]

Wow, I think you just defined irony with that response, Tomas, given your general posting proclivities.

Thanks?

While we're at it, why not drop the penny, nickel, and dime. Just round all purchases off to the nearest quarter. But keep the $2 dollar bill.


Tomas (the tank)
VietNam veteran - 1971

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[sear]

"Not, I." hs

And yet, it was important enough for you to open the clearly labeled topic, and go to the further trouble to post that?

Your behavior indicates a falsehood.
If you didn't care, why would you post, or even open the thread?
If you do care enough to do both, why assert a non-productive contradiction?

[Carl G]

"Not, I." hs

And yet, it was important enough for you to open the clearly labeled topic, and go to the further trouble to post that?

Your behavior indicates a falsehood.
If you didn't care, why would you post, or even open the thread?
If you do care enough to do both, why assert a non-productive contradiction?

sear raises some important points, hsandman. He is correct in saying the topic was clearly labeled:

Exhibit A: The Title: Should the US Constitution's electoral college be repealed?

Furthermore, sear is insightful in surmising it's importance to you despite your protestations to the contrary:

Exhibit B: Tomas the tank: "Whom fawking carez?/" to which you replied, ""Not, I."

Exhibit C: Despite the topic being clearly labeled, you did go through the trouble to 1) open it, and 2) post.

Therefore, I completely agree with sear:

Your behavior indicates a falsehood.

Summation: sear, there is no question in my mind, hsandman DID CARE (enough to open, and post), which makes your judgment correct, in my opinion; hsandman did indeed "assert a non-productive contradiction."

Verdict: this fully deserved the censure you gave him.

[sear]

"I believe it should be repealed. The main reason is that the traditional election process itself has been usurped by the uncheckable power (programming) of the electronic voting machine." CG

Ugh!
An unauditable vote?!

I find it ironic that U.S. officials are known to audit elections in "3rd world" nations. And even some of those more crooked elections may better reflect the desire of their electorate than the U.S. Presidential vote in Y2K.

- Physician: heal thyself? -

"Secondly I'm not sure the Constitution itself is still in effect. Is it? Was it ever?" CG

Twist the knife!

Ouch.

Carl,
Perhaps if I were able to think of U.S. politics more as entertainment than humanity threatening peril, I might not get so jazzed up about it.
But these lunatics that gain office (notice I'm tip-toeing around the "get elected" phrasing) turn humans into corpses by the THOUSANDS!!

It matters!

And thanks Carl for the hs dope-slap.

I don't want to shut anybody up.
I'm simply trying to motivate them to make a substantive contribution.
If he's so bored all he can think of to do is heckle a current events BBS, perhaps he ought to invest in a Wii, or a subscription to National Geographic or something.

[Carl G]

sear: And thanks Carl for the hs dope-slap.

heh, no problem.

[Unidian]

What's wrong with National Geographic? I steal it from the waiting room every chance I get.

[hsandman]

sear: And thanks Carl for the hs dope-slap.

heh, no problem.

hsandman

Ouch... that's what I get for following Tomas into threads.