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Sapius
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Post by Sapius » Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:32 am

Diebert,
What interested me, if you'd care to quote me properly, is your lack of explanations, a lack filled with vague conflicting remarks. That's why I asked further detailed explanation
in my first post here. Is it so hard to keep it simple?
To keep it simple, there were no emotions involved in doing what I did, but logical reasons, and it was really a smoke that one blows into a snake hole to awaken and bring out a snake. Basically make one realize the folly of getting entangled with emotions, emotionally. Well, I really don’t want to talk any further on the subject… that’s all… because it might trigger yet another futile discussion, and self-centered justifications.
You have the right to remain silent and say "non of your business" in which case I wish you all the best, again.
Yes, I do have the right to remain silent, and I can do that by not replying at all, but I’m not the kind of person who even thinks in terms of – “none of your business” Dude, but some times, silence in certain areas is golden. I think you should agree.

I did not mean to demean your very first post in any way, but how could you think that I think in those terms? Haven’t you known me even to that extant? I start very few threads, and in one of those I try to show how causality itself creates freewill. Didn’t I? If you do not agree because of my lack of a proper explanation or whatever reasons, at least you should know that I do not think in terms of “causality means absolute bondage, slavery”, because I AM a thing, and causality has provided ME with certain causally created attributes, and one of them is reasoning, and although that works on the basis of causality, it is the reasoning of a particular thing, and the reasoning of that particular thing has been made capable of accepting or rejecting abstract concepts as THAT thing. So that thing becomes necessarily responsible as far as HIS reasoning goes, not causalities! Is causality bloody thinking or a particularly, causally created, THING?

I tried to see if freewill exists, and if it did, how can freewill make sense without violating the law of causality, and the above makes sense to me, because not only does freewill fit in, but i saw that causality actually creates it, and we don’t see that, because we thing of causality as a one-way street and nothing can turn back, but it does, in me saying NO, which is not going in reverse as such, but still actually forward, but that there were many possible directions, and “I”, a causally created thing, reject and choose, without being disconnected from causality as such.

I have mentioned many a times that I use emotions logically, for I know what both are, and that one can never ever get rid of either, hence using emotions logically means that reasoning always remains a degree higher than emotions, so how could emotions ever get the better of ME? Emotions cannot be removed, but can be ruled, absolutely.
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Post by Diebert van Rhijn » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:57 pm

Sapius wrote:Well, I really don’t want to talk any further on the subject… that’s all… because it might trigger yet another futile discussion, and self-centered justifications.
Okay.

MKFaizi

Post by MKFaizi » Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:23 pm

Dude says he needs to go so let him go. Obviously, I am not the mother here. He has a ton of mothers.

Stop drawing him in. Let him go for a while. He will be back.

Holy Attachment, Batman. Let him go.

Ain't me who is being irrational.

Nick wrote:
you might see that my discussion with Sapius in this thread has little or nothing to do with his actual leaving the forum
Duh, I see that clearly. Your discussion with Sapius has little or nothing to do with his actual leaving the forum. You keep drawing him in.

But dude came here writing that he was leaving for a while.

It is irrational to continue discussion on forum with him when he has stated that he needs to leave for a while. Give him the break that he needs.

Despite your attachment, let him go.

Damn.

Faizi

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Post by Nick » Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:25 pm

He created a thread on a public discussion forum. His thread has been discussed, as that is what forums are used for. If he wanted to leave without having it discussed he could have simply stated he's leaving and be done with it, or made no announcement at all. I didn't ask him for an explanation nor does he owe anyone an explanation, and I don't think anyone really cares. I was simply commenting on the manner in which he brought up causality. Nobody's twisting his arm to engage in any of the discussions on this forum, he's free to come and go as he pleases. Also, if you haven't noticed, he has continued to post on multiple other threads.

As for me having an attachment to Sapius, that's about as ridiculous as the comment you made in this thread.
Give him the break that he needs.
With comments like that it's plain to see you are the one with the attacment to Sapius and his well being. Stop trying to project your own attachments on to me. If he needs a break so badly, I'm sure he would take it.

MKFaizi

Post by MKFaizi » Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:42 pm

Whatever. I am more than happy to back off.

But, to me, when dude says he is cutting off, I take him at his word. I think that is a point of honor and respect.

Stupid presumption on my part. Sorry for interrupting the thread.

Faizi

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