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Post by suergaz » Mon May 15, 2006 12:43 am

prince:
Government is a reality, sure, but no more or less a reality than any other manifestation of reality, like Britney Spears or a microbe on the wall of a vagina. They all have the same relevance and worth, or non-worth, they are something, but essentially nothing in the absolute. It all cancels out.


suergaz: Essentially nothing in the absolute? Are you religious or diseased?


prince: Are you retarted or mentally deficient?

Essential - of essence. In the broader scheme, nothing is essential, and only exists in relation to its counterpart. In the absolute, all and nothing is essential being co-. What part of this do you not understand?
Well if you had said what you're saying now, ie. that there is essentially nothing and everything in the absolute, I would have understood you the first time. Your initial statement amounted to saying "Everything is nothing". "The broader scheme" is as retarded a definition for the universe as "The absolute" in my mentally deficient opinion.

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Post by Tharan » Tue May 23, 2006 3:49 pm

I'm curious...if you dislike the Republicans, why then would you want to rid the country of George Bush. He is a constant stain and embarrasment to the Daddy Party. He exemplifies for the world stage the gorilla beating his chest menacingly, yet beating it utterly incompetantly. Why not enjoy the show?

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Post by Jamesh » Tue May 23, 2006 4:00 pm

I'm curious...if you dislike the Republicans, why then would you want to rid the country of George Bush. He is a constant stain and embarrasment to the Daddy Party. He exemplifies for the world stage the gorilla beating his chest menacingly, yet beating it utterly incompetantly. Why not enjoy the show?

At first I said, yep he is right, the longer Bush is around the more damage he will do. But then I recalled that we are mere whimsy creatures of habit - The Stockholm Syndrome comes into play.

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Post by MKFaizi » Wed May 24, 2006 2:02 pm

The show sucks.

Sucks more every day.

I never loved Clinton and I do not plan to vote for Hillary Clinton.

I have vivid memory of Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush Daddy, Bill Clinton, Bush Baby. I even have small remembrances of Truman and Eisenhower. I was a politically aware kid.

They all sucked but some of them sucked a bit less than others. Richard Nixon looks good compared to Bush Baby. In fact, I think a breath of Nixon could be refreshing about now.

Kind of appropriate that he died when he did. Despite his personal flaws, he was an excellent foreign diplomat. Took talent to bomb Vietnam and make diplomatic ties with China simultaneously.

He would have been appalled by the lack of finesse in the current war in Iraq and beginning elsewhere. Vulgar.

They didn't call him Tricky Dick for nothing.

Faizi

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Post by MKFaizi » Wed May 24, 2006 2:14 pm

The only hope in the next presidential election is that personal experience will out-weigh religion.

I live in a very small town in southwestern Virginia. Several of our kids have been killed in Iraq. Several of our kids have been severely wounded.

Tolerable for a just cause, I reckon.

But these kids have been killed and wounded for nothing other than bullshit.

The Bush presidency is finally being villified. Took long enough.

And the dude goes to church every Sunday. Great guy who can send kids to war for nothing without any conflict in conscience whatsoever.

Typical Christian.

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Post by Tharan » Wed May 24, 2006 3:56 pm

I have no problem with the war itself. I'm an as aggresive male as the next guy (hubba, hubba). The issue is the incompetance. From incompetance leads cronyism and corruption.

Saddam deserved to get his ass kicked. In my opinion, he simpy deserved to have his ass kicked by a more worthy American opponent. We Americans have a long history of getting the job done. Too bad it has been squandered by my "baby boomer" parent's vote and Karl Rove's ingenious methods of thievery.

Speaking for all Judo 1st Dans, I would like to see Putin give Bush a friendly o goshi.

And then put Putin in jail...for the hell of it. Interesting times.

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Post by MKFaizi » Thu May 25, 2006 12:40 pm

Hubba hubba will get your ass killed, Nothing hubba hubba about war or soldiering. Never went to war but I did do soldiering.

In my years in the army, I never met an alpha male. No such thing. In a war or war-games, things get equalized. Survival is often a matter of what seems like luck.

War is almost always needless, especially in 2006 and beyond. The war in Iraq is immoral and stupid -- we were told we would get the oil. What oil?

WMD's? None.

Terrorists? bin Laden put out a new tape just yesterday.

Just brings me back to this old song by Country Joe and the Fish back in the day:

One two three what are we fighting for?
Don't ask me I don't give a damn
Next stop is whatever rhymes with Iraq.

The current war is a very sad joke. I can't imagine getting a hard on about it without a triple dose of Viagra.,

The funny thing about Viagra pens -- get 'em from drug salesmen -- is that they tend to shoot off prematurely. Today, I received a Levitra pen. It comes folded up and you press a button and it becomes erect very slowly.

I am just not that much sold on penis power.

I have not known a man who was not a pussy. Pussies start wars. Needless to say, George Bush is a pussy. So is bin Laden. So is that prime minister dude in England -- what's his puss.

Still got the hubba hubba?

Some men need to grow up and take a whiff of reality -- kind of like napalm in the morning.

War does not prove the worthy dick. War does nothing. It's the ultimate big cunt.

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Post by Tomas » Thu May 25, 2006 12:45 pm

No, Don Rumsfeld is too well-connected to be thrown overboard.

Reptilian shape-shifters, have an uncanny ability to have some CIA-lackey prepositioned at preprogrammed propaganda-fests to break the backs of all opposition. It was all staged in Atlanta.

General Hayden and Rummy are of the same ilk and mindset.

My time in the military saw many of these types of officers ... Colin Powell is of the same mold.

I've worked a lot of political campaigns of some shady yokels who in retrospect were outright criminals ... the one and only reason I did them was they paid so well. Did one for Duke Cunningham, as sleazy back then and as recent news has come out about the payoffs, trips, junkets ... and hookers.

If the money was right, I'd switch to the opposition party and work to get the lesser-known elected through "whatever" it took to win. Not the out-and-out illegalities ... just a lot of garbage hunting in their past.

The fees are secondary to the perks. I always backed the higher-ranking Mason, though.

Politic and religion require the thickest of skins.

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VietNam veteran - 1971

MKFaizi

Post by MKFaizi » Thu May 25, 2006 1:34 pm

Well, Rummy is the last protector of the president -- secretary of defense.

So far, I reckon you are right, Tomas. Rumsfeld is still on the job. I reckon he is connected to God. A frickin' angel, already.

Shape-shiftin' motherfucker.

Faizi

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Post by MKFaizi » Thu May 25, 2006 1:48 pm

I also meant to say that I agree with you about Colin Powell. Many people are not aware of his shape shifting in Vietnam.

I was actually at home when he shape-shifted before the United Nations on CNN. Stunning reptilean performance -- an alligator ice dance.

Goddamned Mason.

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Post by Tomas » Sun May 28, 2006 6:15 am

The Reptiles are squirming on Capitol Hill as NEVER before. This sleezebucket, Mr. Jefferson, from Louisiana, will determine the fate of the Natio.

Should Congress (the Peoples' House) NOT exercise its muscle and get serious about this "antichrist" in our midst, Mr. George Walker Busche, this country, as we know it, is history.

A defining moment.

If the Peoples' house does nothing ... the searches will extrapolate to where-ever the Pink Nazi's turn their head.

It'll be back to the gangster days of Abe Lincoln, where Martial Law has never been legally rescinded, just rubber-stamped on the human forehead.



Good Bye, Posse Comitatus :-(


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Post by Tharan » Mon May 29, 2006 7:19 pm

Marsha wrote,
In my years in the army, I never met an alpha male. No such thing. In a war or war-games, things get equalized. Survival is often a matter of what seems like luck.
I agree completely. Might as well enjoy it.
War does not prove the worthy dick. War does nothing. It's the ultimate big cunt.
Yes, war is big business. Like the ultimate big cunt.
Shape-shiftin' motherfucker...
Gotta survive somehow...

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Post by sschaula » Tue May 30, 2006 1:06 am

Marsha said:

I also meant to say that I agree with you about Colin Powell. Many people are not aware of his shape shifting in Vietnam.

I was actually at home when he shape-shifted before the United Nations on CNN. Stunning reptilean performance -- an alligator ice dance.

Goddamned Mason.


Although I've avoided this topic because I don't like discussing politics here, I do want to comment on this. For once I'll be agreeing with you.

I don't trust anyone who is a 33rd degree Mason. There is too much crap about the Masons. I'm not saying I believe they're some crazy Illuminati, but I am saying that it doesn't look good when a lot of powerful people belong to this secret organization.

I don't trust Colin Powell.

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Post by Cato » Tue May 30, 2006 1:59 am

sschaula
I don't trust anyone who is a 33rd degree Mason
Are you also afraid of the black helicopters following you at night? How 'bout them aliens a cummin' ter gettcha?

Come on. Anyone who believes in overarching conspiracy theories or "secret" groups running the world behind the scenes just isn't very bright.

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Post by sschaula » Tue May 30, 2006 2:18 am

Are you also afraid of the black helicopters following you at night? How 'bout them aliens a cummin' ter gettcha?

No, because there's no reason for black helicopters to be following me. If there were a good reason, then I'd probably be a little scared of it.

You have to be pretty threatening in one way or another to have black helicopters follow you.

I've never seen an alien or a UFO, and if I had, I would definitely question where it came from. Perhaps it was earth? And what would the alien/UFO want with me? Stick something in my butt to monitor me? Well, that doesn't scare me too much. Are we talking war of the worlds, here? Then I might be a little scared, but moreso I'd probably be ready to fight.

However, aliens don't exist to me.

Come on. Anyone who believes in overarching conspiracy theories or "secret" groups running the world behind the scenes just isn't very bright.

Do you know anything about freemasonry? I don't trust people who perform rituals. I think, "What is the point of being blindfolded and to have a dagger against your throat?" "What's the point of wearing a noose around your neck?" "If that's just a beginner's ritual, what does a person go through to become higher in the program!?"

I don't trust people who are in power, period. Bill Gates...I don't trust him. He has too much money. George Bush, although I agree with his views, I don't trust him. I hardly trust my friends, because I've been stabbed in the back too many times...by the "best" of them. At times, even family is hard to trust.

So you're saying I'm not bright, because I don't trust a person who's in power and who is part of a bizzare secret organization? A person who's at the highest level of that organization? Maybe you need to think about it some more.

Of course I don't know if there's some illuminati, or some group which controls all other groups. Maybe there is, probably there isn't.

Who cares, though? I said I don't trust Colin Powell.
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Post by Cato » Tue May 30, 2006 4:10 am

sschaula,
So you're saying I'm not bright, because I don't trust a person who's in power and who is part of a bizzare secret organization? A person who's at the highest level of that organization? Maybe you need to think about it some more.
#1, I know all I need to know of the Masons. And there is nothing to think about if you imagine they are all powerful. They are not and cannot be.

#2, no I do NOT think you are not bright because you "don't trust a person who's in power and who is part of a bizzare secret organization?" You are only not bright if you thank that " bizzare secret organization" controls much of ANYTHING behind the scenes.
Of course I don't know if there's some illuminati, or some group which controls all other groups. Maybe there is, probably there isn't.
No it isn't "probably" it is a straight out fact that there isn't. It is not in human nature to allow such a group to long exist in full control or the seat of power. These overarching, centuries long conspiracy theories are the product of tiny minds with no self esteem.

But, I would not say you in particular 'are not bright". I meant that in general, I should clarify. Sorry if there was a misunderstand because of my not being clear.

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Post by MKFaizi » Tue May 30, 2006 11:32 am

I don't trust anyone who is a 33rd degree Mason
I was being ironic in speaking of shape shifting reptiles and all that -- Masons. The only mason I have ever known was the father of one of my childhood friends. He was an alcoholic salesman. I recall once when she showed me his Mason's ring and told me that her father was in on secrets that he could never reveal.

All I ever saw him do was pass out on the couch. He did go to work for days at a time in his chevy station wagon filled with his wares. I never knew what he was selling -- could have been shape shifting reptiles. Then, he came home; drank a lot of beer and passed out on the couch for days on end.

I was not all that impressed. I figured the Masons must not have that great of secrets. I figured it was mumbo-jumbo -- just a bunch of men who met in a lodge and wore weird headpieces and did some weird ritualistic handshakes.

I know that Colin Powell lied but I don't think his lying was due to his being a Mason. It was due to his being a liar.

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Post by sschaula » Wed May 31, 2006 5:33 am

I figured the Masons must not have that great of secrets. I figured it was mumbo-jumbo -- just a bunch of men who met in a lodge and wore weird headpieces and did some weird ritualistic handshakes.

That's precisely the reason why I don't trust them.
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Post by DHodges » Thu Jun 01, 2006 1:45 am

sschaula wrote:I figured the Masons must not have that great of secrets. I figured it was mumbo-jumbo -- just a bunch of men who met in a lodge and wore weird headpieces and did some weird ritualistic handshakes.

That's precisely the reason why I don't trust them.
And yet you seem to trust Bush, who was in Skull and Bones.

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Post by sschaula » Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:02 am

Well I said this earlier...

"George Bush, although I agree with his views, I don't trust him."
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