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Indo/Pak Music

Post by MKFaizi » Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:34 pm

Dave Hodges:
It has probably eight or ten alternate spellings. They seem very lax about spelling in India (probably because there are so many languages).
They are using English transliteration.

There are many languages, though they are similar. My husband essentially spoke Punjabi. There is no written Punjabi so he wrote Urdu which uses Arabic alphabet or characters. He could understand Hindhi and Sindhi. He could speak some German and write it and his spoken English was not bad. His English handwriting was very good. But he usually wrote Urdu. He could read Arabic but not speak it. He could understand Farsi. He could understand most regional languages of Pakistan or India.

Muslims are so stupid.

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Passion is one thing. Idiocy is another. Kind of like someone who cannot handle LSD.

I'm sure we could go off on a whole other thread there!
But I would rather not. I think the LSD factor has been overdone here, frankly.

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Have you ever watched any Indian movies?

Only for five or ten minutes. All I remember is some extremely stylized flirting, set to music.
You may want to listen to some of the music. Much of it sucks but there is the sitar.
I've been listening to Shankar, just because it was a name I had heard of. Also, he has a CD where he explains exactly what he is doing, which is very helpful.
His name is most closely associated with the sitar in the west. George Harrison popularized him in the west. I recall the recording with the explanations. I owned it when I was about fifteen, maybe.
As I listen to more Indian music, I find that it is the tabla playing I really like, more than the sitar - although they do work well together.
The tabla, the tambura, the sitar.

I do think the tabla is fascinating. More than a drum. More musical than the "western" concept of the drum. You could pretty much have the tabla with a huge voice and be done.

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When you learned to play guitar, did you learn classical guitar first?

No, but I didn't think of the guitar as a classical instrument. I thought of it as a folk or rock instrument. I was very ignorant of classical music when I started playing guitar.
Then, why do you think of the sitar as strictly a classical instrument? It is used in Indo/Pak folk and rock more than it is used classically.

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God, I hate math. I can like it and do it for about one half second.

A lot of people feel that way about math. I think this is actually a big reason it pays well to do mathematically oriented work. Most people don't like it.
There is no sense in it beyond simple computations.

I know that is not entirely true. I know that there would not be computers and the internet and quantum physics without higher math and I admire, to a degree, mathematical talent such as Nash and Godel and others. But it does get to the point that I reckon they could use plainer language. Say it don't spray it.

I will have to finish this tomorrow evening.

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Re: Indo/Pak Music

Post by DHodges » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:17 pm

MKFaizi wrote:Then, why do you think of the sitar as strictly a classical instrument? It is used in Indo/Pak folk and rock more than it is used classically.
It's strictly a matter of what I've heard. I haven't heard Indo/Pak folk and rock.

If you know of some that you think is really good, I will certainly check it out.

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Post by MKFaizi » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:29 pm

Some of Jagjit Singh. Lata Mangeshkar.

Taking some time to research my memory. Lata has the most beautiful, wondrous female voice. I praise Allah that I cannot understand the language because I think the words are probably disgustingly disgusting -- cornball crap. But what a voice. May take some adjustment. Very eastern. Very high pitched that is kind of odd for westerners.

I like Chalta Chalta and another song -- Lodi -- featuring Lata and Jagjit. Great rhythms.

There was one song called "Mere Jawani" that I liked particularly. The Paks used to laugh at me for that one because they said it was "country." Jagji did one version of it that was all right but I cannot recall the country singer that I liked.

Mohammad Raffi is still very popular but I never liked him.

I will see what else I can come up with.

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Post by MKFaizi » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:51 pm

Aashiq Hussain Jatt. Punjabi Folk singer.

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Post by MKFaizi » Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:16 am

Junoon -- a rock group from Karachi and Lahore. They use a lot of tabla, some sitar. Personally, I am not crazy about them but they do a good rock version of "Allah Hu."

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Post by MKFaizi » Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:16 am

Swarn Noora -- Punjabi folk singer, i.e., country. She sings in a very low voice -- sounds like a man. Mostly tabla and harmonicum.

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Post by MKFaizi » Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:26 am

Madurai R Sundar. More classical, I reckon. Good voice. Sitar, whatever else.

I will probably stop now. Too much like spamming. Lots of decent music out there.

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Post by MKFaizi » Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:52 am

http://www.musicindiaonline.com/

This site gives a pretty good overview of Indo-Pak music.

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Post by MKFaizi » Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:14 pm

http://www.musicindiaonline.com/l/11/s/album.3704/

This is incredible. Talk about your shock and awe.

Nuclear.

Sitar? What sitar?

Every track is a killer. Dirty bombs, hell.

Puts Al Qaeda to shame. Take that, Nashville.

I mean, damn.

Insurgents.

Faisalabad.

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Post by MKFaizi » Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:52 pm

Abida Parveen - Duma dum mast qalander. Classic. Sounds male but she is a female singer.

http://www.musicindiaonline.com/l/9/s/a ... rtist.442/

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