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Samson

Post by Phoenix Valtrose » Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:59 pm

Let's go way back in time, back to the battle between Samson and what was it a 1000 Philistine soldiers? Ok there stands Samson, sure he's big and bad but he's not in with the heavyweight champ, he's facing a 1000 armed soldiers. Sure he has the mighty jawbone of an ass, but still a 1000 vs 1? So how did this really go down?

All I can guess is that the soldiers were stupid.What they had no spears or bow and arrows? I can see some big badass with the jawbone of an ass kicking butt on maybe 10 or 15 rookie soldiers. Ok ok maybe even 20. That leaves 980 to go.

So who was in command here? After a 100 went down he didn't think to call a timeout and regroup? Maybe formulate some sort of stragedy, ya know..."ok gang this cat is one mean muther, how's bout we rush him?" Why not toss spears at him? How about a couple hundred over here, a few hundred over there, a few hundred in front of him and on the count of three.....

Apparently they just walked up one by one and got clobbered. How about a.....DUH!!!!!!! I wonder what numbers 999 and 1000 were thinking? What..."you take him!"...haha!!!!!

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Post by Diebert van Rhijn » Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:48 pm

Try to see the story as a parable with Samson (meaning 'sun' ) as a philosopher, a 'masculine thinker' and the Philistine soldiers as a crowd of ignorant blabbers and follow suits: lots of words but saying nothing of impact. The jawbone of the ass could as well be a reference to a talking donkey (quite a popular story element even back then: the 'smart ass').

The only thing that could bind him is the feminine Delilah (meaning 'charming'), or the illusionary nature of everything and the desire towards it.

Does the story make any more sense now? You should try to read all biblical stories with the instructions in mind given in the scriptures again and again: what's exactly going on in your heart and mind is what really shoud matter to you, everything else is distraction until you know.

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Post by Phoenix Valtrose » Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:02 pm

According to the text it was more like....

Samson was very strong and fought many battles against the Philistines. He was proud of his great power in battle against the Philistines. The Philistines hated Samson because of the damage he caused to their cities and fields. At one time he removed the gigantic gates of the city and carried them away on his shoulders after ripping it off its hinges all by himself. Samson set their fields afire and ruined their crops. In one battle he slew 1000 of the Philistines all by himself using for a weapon the jawbone of a donkey that he found on the ground nearby.

That was a paste job by the way.

Not looking at it as if it was some old dirty blues song, saying one thing but meaning another. I'm looking at it more from a "ok if that really happened what criteria was needed to become a Philistine soldier? Obviously fighting wasn't one of them."

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Post by Diebert van Rhijn » Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:18 pm

You have to stop believing what others claim that has happened or exists. Try thinking alone.

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Post by Phoenix Valtrose » Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:17 am

Diebert van Rhijn wrote:You have to stop believing what others claim that has happened or exists. Try thinking alone.
Without others I know nothing about Samson. If I approached this alone, I stay ignorant. I don't find it all that hard to believe that there might have been a Samson. What I'm struggling with is the fact there was an army that stupid.

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Post by Diebert van Rhijn » Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:55 am

Phoenix Valtrose wrote:What I'm struggling with is the fact there was an army that stupid.
Your indulging in such details seems way more inane than that. It would take an army of 100000 Valtroses to make Samson even get out of his bed.

But enough fun. If you haven't any interest in philosophy you should play elsewhere dude. Brothel material.

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Post by sschaula » Sat Jan 28, 2006 4:21 pm

Wow.

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Post by propellerbeanie » Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:11 am

That man Sam had a problem with girls. And He was some kind of son of a bitch. That tieing of firebrands of the tails of foxes and letting them run in the grain of the philistines, was pure evil. But there is so much there in reference to Jesus that it is remarkable. Like the riddle of the bees in the lion, and the fact that he let no razor touch his body -as we can believe of jesus with his perfumed and oiled hair. In the end it is a testament to those who write the history as being the ones alive to write the history. Archeology has shown the philistines to be an artistic and advanced people. Perhaps they wanted peace and only wondered what was wrong with that love sick Samson and any number of other damned Hebrews offing them at every opportunity while they just wanted to be friends. There is a lesson to be the one to give the explaination and write the history. To be successful at genocide gives one people the power to tie history in a knot without a single voice raised in disagreement.

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Post by hsandman » Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:53 pm

propellerbeanie wrote:That man Sam had a problem with girls. And He was some kind of son of a bitch. That tieing of firebrands of the tails of foxes and letting them run in the grain of the philistines, was pure evil. But there is so much there in reference to Jesus that it is remarkable. Like the riddle of the bees in the lion, and the fact that he let no razor touch his body -as we can believe of jesus with his perfumed and oiled hair. In the end it is a testament to those who write the history as being the ones alive to write the history. Archeology has shown the philistines to be an artistic and advanced people. Perhaps they wanted peace and only wondered what was wrong with that love sick Samson and any number of other damned Hebrews offing them at every opportunity while they just wanted to be friends. There is a lesson to be the one to give the explaination and write the history. To be successful at genocide gives one people the power to tie history in a knot without a single voice raised in disagreement.
The two quotes come to mind:
"The one who is left standing is the one who is right"or
"History is writen by the victorious"
Phoenix Valtrose wrote: So how did this really go down?
Ever hear the expresion "fishermans tale"?
It's just a ride.

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