Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:18 am
I think the changing of avatars is just a symptom of boredom. "Hmm, can't think of anything worthwhile to do. I know! I'll change my avatar and pretend that I'm making a point!".
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Whenever I have changed my avatar, it is always related to making a humorous point, so you would need to provide a convincing argument as to why all humor should be abolished to give your boredom claim any merit.I think the changing of avatars is just a symptom of boredom. "Hmm, can't think of anything worthwhile to do. I know! I'll change my avatar and pretend that I'm making a point!"
So that's why you changed yours from the couple walking in the woods!Dan Rowden wrote:I think the changing of avatars is just a symptom of boredom. "Hmm, can't think of anything worthwhile to do. I know! I'll change my avatar and pretend that I'm making a point!".
Well, he’s not actually being hanged, he is very close to being hanged. In other words he is very close to death. And his facial expression reveals that he isn’t in the clearest state of consciousness before death, he looks rather bemused, disorientated, and goofy. Much like many of the seekers of enlightenment.What is the point being made with Eli Wallach being hanged?
Well, that sort of depends on the mentality one brings to it. More often than not said mentality is delusional.Carl G wrote:And, regarding socializing, surely there is nothing wrong with it, in moderation.
But again this is all contingent on the mentality involved. If it's about egotistical gratification then it's a bad thing.And nothing better, when done with someone on one's wavelength, sharing a way of thinking or a particular groove of humor. Yes, Kelly, it is like biking down a mountain, I would imagine.
Why do you need people to be on your wavelength? What is it, do you think, that causes us to benefit from that? And, sure, Aaron is a bit of a laugh, but I'm a little concerned that that's all he is.Glad to share a few laughs here with Aaron, they are sort of few and far between in the real world, where I generally find a dearth of companionship on my wavelength.
Not really. My sense of humour and theirs doesn't really gel so there's not much to chuckle about. However, there is one quite intelligent fellow I sometimes chat with who can laugh about the various follies of humanity. Fact is most of the things I would laugh at are more likely to rile folks than make them laugh along.And what's the matter, Dan, don't you share a few chuckles with the boys in the pub?
Yes, exactly. So I think you know what I am talking about.Dan Rowden wrote:And it can be okay with me sometimes if it is. It is not always possible to be non-delusional. And it is healthier to laugh in delusion occasionally than be non-delusional and unmitigatedly somber. And, yes, sometimes those are the only two choices available.Carl G wrote:CG: And, regarding socializing, surely there is nothing wrong with it, in moderation.
DR: Well, that sort of depends on the mentality one brings to it. More often than not said mentality is delusional.
Too general. Not always a bad thing. Sometimes one just needs to stop working.CG: And nothing better, when done with someone on one's wavelength, sharing a way of thinking or a particular groove of humor. Yes, Kelly, it is like biking down a mountain, I would imagine.
DR: But again this is all contingent on the mentality involved. If it's about egotistical gratification then it's a bad thing.
I don't need people to be on my wavelength. I need people who are on my wavelength. In other words, I'm not trying to change people. But I do look for people who already share my values. Like some posters here.CG: Glad to share a few laughs here with Aaron, they are sort of few and far between in the real world, where I generally find a dearth of companionship on my wavelength.
Why do you need people to be on your wavelength?
I think it increases our heart, our courage and clarity. Gives us added strength to continue our quest. And gives us needed information, in terms of both feedback and new ideas.What is it, do you think, that causes us to benefit from that?
Even if this is true, it is beside the point.And, sure, Aaron is a bit of a laugh, but I'm a little concerned that that's all he is.
there is one quite intelligent fellow I sometimes chat with who can laugh about the various follies of humanity. Fact is most of the things I would laugh at are more likely to rile folks than make them laugh along.
This is just saying, the more distinct the interactions between things, the more obviously different they are.It also serves as a way to untangle one's self from one's own thoughts. Kind of like how sometimes the computer has to be rebooted, sometimes the brain needs to disengage to be able to re-engage properly.
No, that's not right. One breathes regardless of the emotional overlays one puts on breathing.if one has absolutly no pleasure in life, one might as well be dead. Even if one does not get emotional, one can recognize the tedium and ultimate uselessness of it all and find no reason to bother to do all the things that are required in order to live. Living wisely becomes an oxymoron.
Sounds like a drug addiction to me.painful lonliness can result from not being connected - so they socialize to relieve the pain or meet the basic desire. Sufficient isolation will eventually make the lonliness go away, but certain skills go away as well. Any skill, including socializing or even just verbalizing one's thoughts, must be practiced or they will either not develop or atrophy with disuse.
You can never eliminate all pleasure, there is pleasure in drinking a hot herbal tea, or going for a walk, or speaking with a friend.Losing the will to live is a result of desiring and not getting pleasure in life.
I think you are trying to sell you’re case a little too much here. Being in an unfeeling robotic state of nothingness is not wonderfully conscious, it is meaningless. There is nothing fundamentally there.It's really wierd to me that this interestedness in everything should be considered nitpicking or humourless. It's wonderfully conscious, full of creativity, not led.
I disagree in that I am making a distinction between losing the will to live and having the desire to die. Desiring nothing includes not desiring to live as well as not having the desire to die; it is the condition of anhedonia.Kelly Jones wrote:Losing the will to live is a result of desiring and not getting pleasure in life.
The reality is that we are undisconnectable in the infinite scope of things, but the feeling of connection or disconnection refers to a level of availability of perspecitves. One who is physically ill enough or medicated/drugged enough to significantly impair one's mind yet who has a memory of being able to perceive much more clearly can feel disconnected from one's body despite still inhabiting it.Kelly Jones wrote:Why should feeling connected make one feel well? Isn't one undisconnectable?
You misunderstand what I meant. Interestedness in everything is mere curiosity. It was the tone you used which could look nit-picky.Kelly Jones wrote:It's really wierd to me that this interestedness in everything should be considered nitpicking or humourless.
Right on both counts.Kelly Jones wrote:I wonder, if one only does things to have joy, then one's realness gets lopsided. Joylessness seems untrue.
The first part, where painful lonliness can result from the lack, so they seek to relieve the pain, is like a drug addiction. You asked why they do, not why they should.EI:painful lonliness can result from not being connected - so they socialize to relieve the pain or meet the basic desire. Sufficient isolation will eventually make the lonliness go away, but certain skills go away as well. Any skill, including socializing or even just verbalizing one's thoughts, must be practiced or they will either not develop or atrophy with disuse.
KJ: Sounds like a drug addiction to me.
Up and down. Happy, sad. Need, satisfaction. Longing, longing, longing.
I don't like seeing the dysfunctional, fatigued people on treadmills, that they keep turning because they mistakenly assume that life without a treadmill is tedious and dull.
By analyzing your statement, I conclude that you certainly can be blunt, especially when that is your intention. ;)Shahrazad wrote:Trevor,
Can I be blunt? Your avatar is ugly as hell.
Trevor!Trevor Salyzyn wrote:There. My real face. No, I don't smile for cameras.