<hr>There is certainly the appearance of boundaries, which denote where things seem to begin and end. But as I explained in the book - using the example of a cloud in the sky - they are as much a creation of our perspective and conceptualizing minds as they are of the actual cloud in question. A cloud's boundaries can no more exist in the absence of the observing mind as they can in the absence of the cloud itself.
As much as. So the boundaries are partly created by our minds and perspective, and partly real. It's an important insight to see that boundaries are not solid and inherent, because the tendency of our brain wiring is to see only that. And seeing it the other way is certainly a step toward enlightenment. So my arguing here is about recognizing that if boundaries had no reality to them, no unfolding of life as we know it could occur. As to whether it can exist without an observing mind - I'm not sure. I would say a leaf is still a leaf, going about its leafy business, whether anyone sees it or not, even if every single being in the locality saw no boundaries to anything at all, the leaf would do its thing, and its molecules would be exactly the same. Unless, of course, the existence of everything is always and at all times upheld by some sort of Consciousness, which is entirely possible.
Quote:<hr>Bird: Well, if you dispute that then your arguments make sense. As to whether you are right, that is another question. There is not any fault in experiencing a heaven, and its truths are much higher than the mundane ones. Truth is vast and it is a never-ending ascent, or at least, the end is nowhere in sight. <hr>
Another myth created by over-bloated mystics, who do everything possible to put the real Truth out of their minds so that they can continuing gorging on their never-ending ego heavens. When will they eve<hr>
What do you mean, "they"? I made that up! If this is the difference between the masculine mind and the feminine, I'll take mine, thanks. Are you really saying that you have such a grasp on truth that there is no more for you to discover, in this life or any other possible state of existence that you can imagine?
You don't think truth is a long ascent, perhaps without end? You don't think that the truths you once held, maybe 5 maybe 10, maybe 15 years ago, were improved and modified over the years, and yet you had more truth back then than someone else? This is not the same as saying truth is relative or nonexistent. But it is a VERY large elephant. The blind man who said the elephant was like a rope was *not* wrong - he was only limited in what truth he could discern.
Quote:<hr>We don't have to "be" everything, or indeed "be" anything. We are already everything. It is an already accomplished fact. We just have to stop blocking it out of our minds. <hr>
It may be a fact, but I don't know everything. What do you mean, blocking it out of our minds?
Quote:<hr>Yes, as I say, she hangs back a bit. She preserves a part of herself, so as to continue enjoying life. <hr>
You speak as though it were a choice. I haven't seen a different opportunity.
Quote:<hr>"Whoever does not give up his life will lose it. But whoever loses his life for my sake will receive eternal life." - Jesus <hr>
Yeah, he was talking about the real thing. You're not.
Quote:<hr>It is literally what existence means. To exist is to appear. <hr>
I can't get a handle on that. Just doesn't seem right. So rather than question my intelligence, it would be better to say that you're wrong : )
[quoteor that it doesn't exist just because of the fact that it is utterly transormed *in appearance* (but not in its molecules.)
I'm not sure what you're talking about here.[/quote]
Oh, just what I said above about the leaf.
Quote:<hr>There is just empty space and no sign of any observer at all. This demonstrates that the "observer" is a fictitious creation of the brain, which automatically implies that appearances towards this non-existent observer are not really appearances.<hr>
I think you are just assuming that an observer must feel that their eyes are in their head and the brain behind the eyes. There is a sign of an observer -an oberver with weird long eyeballs.