The Alpha and The Omega
The Alpha and The Omega
Absolute value - The Omega group.
This group believe that the human being has an absolute value and the human being must also have an ultimate purpose. Absolute value and ultimate purpose can be quantified with money. In this group blood money, slavery and bridal purchase are acceptable. Everything has a price even you.
(By the way have you checked your life insurance policy recently?)
Infinite value - The Alpha group.
This group believe the human being has infinite value and that the purpose of the human being can only be seen by the enlightened.
So when you listen to an Omega person wrestling with the question of enlightenment they are just trying to find the current market value of the human being which appears to vary relative to region. There are certain difficulties in ascertaining the exact quantity and quality of a human being as that is variable also.
How much do you think you are worth?
This group believe that the human being has an absolute value and the human being must also have an ultimate purpose. Absolute value and ultimate purpose can be quantified with money. In this group blood money, slavery and bridal purchase are acceptable. Everything has a price even you.
(By the way have you checked your life insurance policy recently?)
Infinite value - The Alpha group.
This group believe the human being has infinite value and that the purpose of the human being can only be seen by the enlightened.
So when you listen to an Omega person wrestling with the question of enlightenment they are just trying to find the current market value of the human being which appears to vary relative to region. There are certain difficulties in ascertaining the exact quantity and quality of a human being as that is variable also.
How much do you think you are worth?
Re: The Alpha and The Omega
I am without value! I can guess though at what would be made up for my bounty! But I'd be assassinatin' assassins like a bad ass muthafuckin ninja. Edited by: suergaz at: 2/3/04 6:46 pm
The Alpha and The Omega
If you had to buy your wife would you respect her more?
Re: The Alpha and The Omega
We do buy our wives, with money and made-up love.
Just as a women buys a husband with made-up feminity and a promise of eternity via kids.
The sad fact is that life has no value, except to the one who possesses it.
Just as a women buys a husband with made-up feminity and a promise of eternity via kids.
The sad fact is that life has no value, except to the one who possesses it.
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Re: The Alpha and The Omega
Zag wrote:
Quote:Quote:<hr>I am without value!<hr>
Finally! Something comprehensible that we can agree on! :)
Dan Rowden
Quote:Quote:<hr>I am without value!<hr>
Finally! Something comprehensible that we can agree on! :)
Dan Rowden
Re: The Alpha and The Omega
(:D) What could have been more comprehensible than my ninja remark?
My life may not have fixed value, but my valuing of life makes me more valuable than most.
Jimhaz once wrote something profound about there being no respect amongst the enlightened.
Love and possession is more real than cause and effect!
My life may not have fixed value, but my valuing of life makes me more valuable than most.
Jimhaz once wrote something profound about there being no respect amongst the enlightened.
Love and possession is more real than cause and effect!
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I believe each has a relative and variable value (depending on his contribution to the tribe), which is also dependent on his actions. A man may have profound abilities, but is no more valuable than any other if he doesn't use those abilities.
"Love and possession is more real than cause and effect!"
Love and possession are caused.
"Love and possession is more real than cause and effect!"
Love and possession are caused.
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"Love and possession is more real than cause and effect!"
Your contentment in your aloneness is an illusion. We always want what we don't have. You want to possess 'love', and so you constantly reject ultimate wisdom, as it means you can't have love with a female.
I think you've gone to far down the path of wisdom to be able to love. So either fuck of and relearn how to be a herd member or stop whinging about the QRS. You'll have to make the choice at some time.
I think you are a bit sucicidal at present, so what I'm saying here is dangerous, but I'm willing to say it because I think you are too wise to do that.
Your contentment in your aloneness is an illusion. We always want what we don't have. You want to possess 'love', and so you constantly reject ultimate wisdom, as it means you can't have love with a female.
I think you've gone to far down the path of wisdom to be able to love. So either fuck of and relearn how to be a herd member or stop whinging about the QRS. You'll have to make the choice at some time.
I think you are a bit sucicidal at present, so what I'm saying here is dangerous, but I'm willing to say it because I think you are too wise to do that.
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My comments are addressed to philosophical people.
Love is only wise for those who believes it solves problems and believe they experience it.
I don’t believe it solves problems and have never experienced it, except for infatuation. Any long term relationships have been argument-feasts.
Love is not wise for those who don't that much comfort in it and who wish to remain individuals.
In terms of different groups getting on a love of fellow man with reason is wise. The desire of or possession of love can also stop people from going crazy.
It is a necessary part of society, and a necessary concept to aspire to for most folk, but it is not the only way to go through life.
Love is only wise for those who believes it solves problems and believe they experience it.
I don’t believe it solves problems and have never experienced it, except for infatuation. Any long term relationships have been argument-feasts.
Love is not wise for those who don't that much comfort in it and who wish to remain individuals.
In terms of different groups getting on a love of fellow man with reason is wise. The desire of or possession of love can also stop people from going crazy.
It is a necessary part of society, and a necessary concept to aspire to for most folk, but it is not the only way to go through life.
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Quote:Quote:<hr>Love is only wise for those who believes it solves problems and believe they experience it.<hr>
No, love is only wise for those who are love. It's not a matter of believing you experience it. You are the experience.
I can't see what problem there is to be solved.
Quote:Quote:<hr>I don’t believe it solves problems and have never experienced it, except for infatuation. Any long term relationships have been argument-feasts.<hr>
What problems?
Quote:Quote:<hr>Love is not wise for those who don't that much comfort in it and who wish to remain individuals<hr>
Love is not a mean, it's an end in itself.
To the wise person there are no means, just ends.
Quote:Quote:<hr>It is a necessary part of society, and a necessary concept to aspire to for most folk, but it is not the only way to go through life.<hr>
I never argued that it is the only way to go through life. It is just the most intelligent one, if you happen to be love. Edited by: Rairun at: 2/5/04 11:05 am
No, love is only wise for those who are love. It's not a matter of believing you experience it. You are the experience.
I can't see what problem there is to be solved.
Quote:Quote:<hr>I don’t believe it solves problems and have never experienced it, except for infatuation. Any long term relationships have been argument-feasts.<hr>
What problems?
Quote:Quote:<hr>Love is not wise for those who don't that much comfort in it and who wish to remain individuals<hr>
Love is not a mean, it's an end in itself.
To the wise person there are no means, just ends.
Quote:Quote:<hr>It is a necessary part of society, and a necessary concept to aspire to for most folk, but it is not the only way to go through life.<hr>
I never argued that it is the only way to go through life. It is just the most intelligent one, if you happen to be love. Edited by: Rairun at: 2/5/04 11:05 am
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Rairun
It all sounds a bit Mills-and-Boonish to me. Read David's WOMEN book and ask yourself if you have the dream.
Personally I don't regard the manner in which most folks live together after a few years as 'love', it is just suitable arrangments, the comforts of the known, the doing things together. It is more compatible and interjoined lifestyles than anything else.
Whenever someone dies the sorrow you feel is mostly for your loss, not theirs.
It all sounds a bit Mills-and-Boonish to me. Read David's WOMEN book and ask yourself if you have the dream.
Personally I don't regard the manner in which most folks live together after a few years as 'love', it is just suitable arrangments, the comforts of the known, the doing things together. It is more compatible and interjoined lifestyles than anything else.
Whenever someone dies the sorrow you feel is mostly for your loss, not theirs.
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Quote:Quote:<hr>It all sounds a bit Mills-and-Boonish to me. Read David's WOMEN book and ask yourself if you have the dream.<hr>
I haven't read it, and it's not avaiable anymore. I was going to guess what the dream is and answer your question, but then I thought that maybe you could explain what it is first.
Quote:Quote:<hr>Personally I don't regard the manner in which most folks live together after a few years as 'love', it is just suitable arrangments, the comforts of the known, the doing things together. It is more compatible and interjoined lifestyles than anything else.<hr>
Well, there's nothing wrong with that either, if that's what you are. If you do it without wanting it, then it's just stupidity.
Quote:Quote:<hr>Whenever someone dies the sorrow you feel is mostly for your loss, not theirs.<hr>
Maybe there are some cases in which that's not true, but I'm not going to argue about it. It might as well always be selfish. The thing is that it doesn't actually matter why you feel sorrow. What matters is that you feel it.
If I truly wanted not to feel sorrow, I wouldn't do it. But if I'm feeling it, I do want it, and I'm only fooling myself if I say I don't.
The problem here is that you see sorrow as a bad consequence that should be eliminated, not as your will of sorrow. To feel sorrow is wise if you are sorrow.
I haven't read it, and it's not avaiable anymore. I was going to guess what the dream is and answer your question, but then I thought that maybe you could explain what it is first.
Quote:Quote:<hr>Personally I don't regard the manner in which most folks live together after a few years as 'love', it is just suitable arrangments, the comforts of the known, the doing things together. It is more compatible and interjoined lifestyles than anything else.<hr>
Well, there's nothing wrong with that either, if that's what you are. If you do it without wanting it, then it's just stupidity.
Quote:Quote:<hr>Whenever someone dies the sorrow you feel is mostly for your loss, not theirs.<hr>
Maybe there are some cases in which that's not true, but I'm not going to argue about it. It might as well always be selfish. The thing is that it doesn't actually matter why you feel sorrow. What matters is that you feel it.
If I truly wanted not to feel sorrow, I wouldn't do it. But if I'm feeling it, I do want it, and I'm only fooling myself if I say I don't.
The problem here is that you see sorrow as a bad consequence that should be eliminated, not as your will of sorrow. To feel sorrow is wise if you are sorrow.