"Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"

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"Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"

Post by Kevin Solway » Sun Feb 01, 2004 7:54 pm

I hereby coin the "Schizotypoid Personality Disorder".

Indicated primarily by a split with reality, and with the following symptoms:

1. Desires emotional relationships with others, and tends to selfishly impose themselves on those around them.
2. Tends towards group activities, seeking affirmation by others, and has little feeling of self-worth.
3. Has obsessive interest in sexual and/or emotional contact with others, but avoids all deeper, spiritual connection.
4. Overriding tendency towards fantasy.
5. Seeks vain enjoyment in all manner of activities, but rarely achieves any satisfaction.
6. Tends to have lots of friends, but lacks any truly caring, understanding relationships.
7. Obsessive interest in the praise or criticism of others. Takes great care in physical appearance and fashion.
8. Shows emotional lack of control, irrational attachment, and exaggerated affectivity.
9. Tendency to blindly follow authorities, whom they create.
Edited by: ksolway at: 2/1/04 2:45 am

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Re: "Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"

Post by suergaz » Sun Feb 01, 2004 8:25 pm

A split with reality is a myth perpetuated by impotent men and childless women.

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Re: "Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"

Post by cassiopeiae » Sun Feb 01, 2004 8:38 pm

So what is the medium between "Schiziod Personality Disorder" and "Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"? They are both extremes, wouldn't it make sense that both would be unintelligent ways of living?

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Re: "Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"

Post by suergaz » Sun Feb 01, 2004 8:41 pm

I take back the childless women bit.

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Re: "Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"

Post by Kevin Solway » Sun Feb 01, 2004 8:44 pm

The way I see it, the "Schizotypoids" are in fact just normal, average people. One of the obvious problems of treating patients with this disorder is that the patient tends to deny there is anything wrong with them, and will not seek treatment, or be responsive to treatment.

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Re: "Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"

Post by suergaz » Sun Feb 01, 2004 8:47 pm

Kevin Solway sees himself as a kind of divine straight jacket for the masses. But he's really a niggly bum face who wrote a book called poison for the heart.

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Post by voce io » Sun Feb 01, 2004 8:50 pm

I agree that this is a disorder. I think you should name it something else, though, Kevin.

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Re: "Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"

Post by cassiopeiae » Sun Feb 01, 2004 8:53 pm

I agree for the most part, but as the "Schizotypoids" is extreme in vanity, materialism, egotism, the "Schizoid" is extreme in other areas, which also includes egotism, in such scenarios as interacting with society, creating the effect of hermitage and complete alienation...

Just curious on your thought...

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Re: "Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"

Post by suergaz » Sun Feb 01, 2004 8:54 pm

Quote:Quote:<hr>Just curious on your thought... <hr>

As opposed to taking this man seriously yes?

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Re: "Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"

Post by cassiopeiae » Sun Feb 01, 2004 9:01 pm

Are you saying the things he mentioned above are not to be taken seriously?

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Re: "Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"

Post by Kevin Solway » Sun Feb 01, 2004 9:10 pm

Quote:Quote:<hr>I agree for the most part, but as the "Schizotypoids" is extreme in vanity, materialism, egotism, the "Schizoid" is extreme in other areas, which also includes egotism, in such scenarios as interacting with society, creating the effect of hermitage and complete alienation...

Just curious on your thought...<hr>

Yes, the true Schizoid is as much an egotist as the normal, average person, only their egotism takes a different expression - it may seek identity in being different to everyone else rather than in being the same as everyone else.

However, it is a tendency of normal, average people (Schizotypoids) to label any non-normal (non-Schizotypoid) person as "Schizoid", even if that person is not egotistical. Unfortunately, the truly schizoid person will fail to fight back against whatever is done to him by the schizotypoids - as part of his condition (schizoids tend to be passive, and don't make waves).
Edited by: ksolway at: 2/1/04 3:16 am

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Re: "Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"

Post by cassiopeiae » Sun Feb 01, 2004 9:18 pm

As you have labeled the "Schizotypoid" using various criteria, the "Schizoid" is also labeled through certain criteria...now are you arguing that the "Schizoid" is merely labeled by the average person, though as you see in the relating thread, the schizoid admitting these criteria fit in his/her lifestyle? ... the true schizoid is egotistical, one who calls himself a schizoid is not necessarily egotistical?

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Re: "Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"

Post by Kevin Solway » Sun Feb 01, 2004 9:40 pm

Quote:Quote:<hr>As you have labeled the "Schizotypoid" using various criteria, the "Schizoid" is also labeled through certain criteria.<hr>

Yes.

Quote:Quote:<hr>..now are you arguing that the "Schizoid" is merely labeled by the average person<hr>

Usually, yes. As most people are average (schizotypoid).

Quote:Quote:<hr> . . . though as you see in the relating thread, the schizoid admitting these criteria fit in his/her lifestyle? ... the true schizoid is egotistical, one who calls himself a schizoid is not necessarily egotistical?<hr>

Not necessarily. If I call you by the name "Janine" often enough, you might even start to accept the name "Janine", just because you couldn't be bothered arguing with it. However, you still know what your real name is.

Similarly, a person might call himself "schizoid" just because that's what society says he is, and he couldn't be bothered arguing with it.

A wise person would probably split the "schizoid" category into "schiziod disorder" and "schizoid heaven", the former being the egotistical person with a problem, and the latter being the wise person with an advantage.

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Re: "Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"

Post by cassiopeiae » Sun Feb 01, 2004 9:46 pm

I can understand the person accepting the label society has put on him, but your "division" is a bunch of bologna.

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Re: "Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"

Post by suergaz » Mon Feb 02, 2004 5:34 am

Anyone who thinks to label the majority of people 'schizoids' doesn't have a personality disorder, just a weak personality.

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Re: "Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"

Post by Lyrutan » Mon Feb 02, 2004 10:49 am

Kevin Solway looks like a guy who is discovered living in a house with 24 dead bodies in the basement, and David Quinn looks like that guy who hands around in the park that you are afraid to let your kids near.

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Re: "Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"

Post by voce io » Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:02 pm

...and Dan looks like my friend's dad.

What's your point, didn't your momma ever tell you not to judge a book by it's cover?

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Re: "Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"

Post by birdofhermes » Tue Feb 03, 2004 6:04 am

Then there's me:

1.I desire emotional relationships with others, and I grant other people almost total freedom with no impositions.
2. I have limited but definite interests in group activities; a high self worth and I uplift the self worth of people around me.
3. I have strong interest in sexual and emotional contact, and always steer them toward the most deep and spiritual connections.
4. Little interest in fantasy.
5. I achieve a lot of satisfaction from the activities I engage in.
6. I have caring and understanding relationships with all and sundry.
7. Less and less interest in praise and criticism.
8. Rarely lose control, don't act fake.
9. Evaluate everything for myself.

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Re: "Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"

Post by voce io » Tue Feb 03, 2004 7:09 am

Trying to be right doesn't make you right.

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Re: "Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"

Post by capecodindependant » Wed Feb 04, 2004 6:05 pm

It is Schizotypal not Schizotypoid...or have I missed something>?<img src="http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v46 ... fdsfsd.jpg"/> Edited by: capecodindependant at: 2/4/04 12:07 am

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Re: "Schizotypoid Personality Disorder"

Post by Kevin Solway » Wed Feb 04, 2004 6:15 pm

There is "Schizoid" and "Schizotypal", and now a new, third "Schizotypoid" condition, defined at the start of the thread.

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