Religion, the fine art of deception

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Bradley West
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Religion, the fine art of deception

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Is Buddhism the ‘Word of Siddhartha’?

Religion, the fine art of deception.

Man created God in his form.
Buddhists depicted their Buddha in their monks’ uniform
All in the name of Religion
The fine art of deception
Where billions are made, deceiving the naïve with impunity
Promising a ‘way out of suffering’ a nonentity.
A shameless occupation, ‘holy, noble and sacred they say
To keep their unassuming followers at bay
Out of ignorance, the world is trapped in its net
Allowing the treasure hunters to do the rest
Lacking the wisdom to see this mockery
You are forever caught up in their drudgery
When will you ever see this deception for what it is?
To seek the only way there is
The ‘Middle Process’ revealed by Siddhartha
To abandon the world of duality the ‘Samsara and Nibbana’.

Religion is like a magic show. The more they fool you the more you want them. No wonder the world is caught up in their grip.
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There is a box of flesh we call ourselves, in this three dimensional miniature imitation of creation of life, I preceive in the dark of my mind which sees no light or knowledge, and certainly no wisdom. And yet there is something within us somewhere like a tiny, infinitesimal mechanism of consciousness that is alive and hypnotized in a false awareness we know as the 4th world of cosmic energy believed by man to be outside this box. But under the precipice of shadowed knowledge can be found ego's objective and subjective mind. And everything man does while living under this precipice, whether precipitated by human thought analysis, visions, feelings, or because he has not found a way to touch, within himself, the invisible Spirit of the law of life, he will then become judgmental and opinionated towards a particular branch of some people living, perpetuated by belief in a second mind, over and above that of the unconditioned Mind of what is beyond his knowledge.

Always man is in a debate, or discussion concerning real and unreal, and who knows this, and who doesn't, adjudicating his fleshly knowledge, and asserting his position being right, and all others wrong. His vehement intellect state reality is of mind and its senses manifest tangibility either by thought or physically. This man's intellectual metaphysics approach comes from the energy of his brain, and the sustaining power of the cosmos. He calls himself a spiritualist, a theist, atheist, philosopher or is just one who deals in the reality of dualism, of light verses darkness, and institutes a deity which is also judgmental and partial to certain people, places and things of itself it has created.

What this individual present is always fabricated theories, complexities, the mind cannot grasp because the mind cannot reach into the core element which produce the essence applicable to truth. This individual put up a great front of life, but he cannot go into the root cause of anything, nor explain why the substance and essence of the structure of that which is known to the human mind as the cosmos, or heavens, or the universe without conjecture. He bypass the reasoning that "a shadows does not exist where it falls. A shadow also does not exist where it does fall." because he hasn't realized light does not cast a shadow, neither does darkness. This saying is as A. Schopenhauer stated: "This actual world of what is knowable, in which we are and which is in us, remains both the material and the limit of our consideration."

Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa
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An enlightening piece of writing, no doubt. However, it is unlikely to appeal to a world engrossed in religions and holy men. Sadly to them, it will remain a voice in the wilderness.
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Bradley West wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:40 pm An enlightening piece of writing, no doubt. However, it is unlikely to appeal to a world engrossed in religions and holy men. Sadly to them, it will remain a voice in the wilderness.
It is not just holy men and their followers that are afraid to question the true nature of the forms they erroneously interpret as truth, it is each of us that clings to form. If it is the truth of who or what one is that is desired to be realized, the hard truth is that every human feeling must be transcended.

Are we deceiving or being deceived because of our fear to surrender our clinging to view? Obviously this is as valid a self-righteous view (clinging) as any and most likely will be experienced by all who peer into the silent void of self-relativity, but higher on the rungs of Jacob's Ladder is the subtle (albeit also clinging) view of forgiveness and compassion for the causation of clinging itself.

Absolute realization knows no sadness or gladness or anger or forgiveness. No wonder it is the realm wherein even angels fear to tread. But when angels do find the courage to drop their self-righteous halos, liberation is theirs.
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Whose voice can be said not to be that in the wilderness when

No one knows the path to walk
Or directions path we stalk
From voices of dead cry
In anguish mutter and sigh
Hear us, O! cries
No over yonder, pie in the sky
Of peers seeking guide
Beyond illusion a kingdom on high

Only now, no next, come
Death sins hide from
Spirits sent interpreted thinking,
Consequence come, yes. look whose winking? - jufa


Every time resistance to words and ideology are presented, one dances with the devil. It is the dance of self-righteous ignorance. Resistance keeps alive the thought power of both ideologies. What do words matter to one who has been indoctrinated in hand me down human interpreted thoughts, and believe their message is justified?

To change a mind, one must change acceptance of allowing thought patterns to find the corridors and rooms of permanence in ones consciousness. For the faithfulness of men to anything is their dependency upon being followers of men. Being a follower is entirely founded upon the platform of irresponsibility which always leaves one in an hypnotic dream.

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Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa
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In reply to Pam’s post, let me quote the following:

“Unlike religions, the Dhamma the cosmic law is beyond words. The more you conceptualize, the more you are likely to miss the point”.
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Bradley West wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:15 am In reply to Pam’s post, let me quote the following:

“Unlike religions, the Dhamma the cosmic law is beyond words. The more you conceptualize, the more you are likely to miss the point”.
Whoever believes they know the cosmic law conceptually speaks from ignorance. What say you to the use of "I think" or "I believe" (using the subjective-relative) in relation to being as the cosmic law is?
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The issue with man's perspective of religiion, God, and what religion and God does and does not allow, in the material world of man and his thoughts, fall on two premises which are absolutely void of knowledge and wisdom to speak on any subject which has not been clarified definitively.for human consumption and mind exploration.

"Indologist Heinrich Zimmer attempted to clarify word definitively when he cites Joseph Campbell.

To paraphrase:
"The best things cannot be told. The second best things are misunderstood. The third best are the stuff of everyday conversation."
What does Zimmer mean by this cryptic statement?
Campbell points out that these "best things" we find in myth transcend thought and speech - indeed, they are beyond concepts, so cannot be conceptualized, only experienced.

The "second best things" are misunderstood, for they use the "third best things" - the language of everyday life - to discuss the first best things ... hence, the imagery, metaphors, and mystic oxymorons that form these "second best things" are often either read literally - which concretizes the myth - or are dismissed as vague and meaningless mumbo jumbo." - Heinrich Zimmer

Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa
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