Since by your own admission you have not experienced ego death, "the way":ardy: Diebert and Seeker have almost no understanding of the way, to my mind they never will have unless they change [unlikely]. They are too attached to intellectual dissection and argument. The way is far simpler and harder than those two stone heads realise.
are you not then making your judgment of Diebert and Seeker from the perception of yourself or ego, your own holding-on "stone head"?ardy: Yes Crow and therefore it is often referred to as the Ego Death. Having been close to letting my 'self' go I can understand why it often needs a strong push to send you through. It is a very scary situation and feels like you will die with nothing to hold onto.
Regarding the rest of the content in our conversation, I offer this quote from the Buddha with regards to how one knows when the idea of self or ego is engaged and when it is not: "Both formerly & now, it is only stress that I describe, and the cessation of stress." — SN 22.86
What saith you about that? :-)