Diebert wrote:As it is also a cornerstone of Islamic philosophy (zakat, sadaqah) and the first of the six perfections in Buddhism (dana paramita), the first stage of Bodhisattva-path and the first topic in Buddha's gradual discourse. Both non-Western religions have also countless charities. To me it seems you are lacking a bit in knowledge here my friend.
You must keep in mind that all my writing is directed to this forum, and a great deal of what I write is, if you will, a response or an answer to the essential formations that have been concretized here. I am, shall we say,
enough aware that service-caritas in Buddhism are central to those traditions. I grew up on the periphery of a Zen community in California. I have seen very decent people doing very decent things. But again, I am speaking to the GF formulations, to Quinnism, to this extremely flukey and off-the-wall interpretation-reinterpretation of religious and philosophical doctrines. And what that means too is that I am
NOT speaking to you, or answering you. Or, you are on the periphery of my basic focus.
I suggest to you that concepts and praxis of service-caritas are virtually absent, in almost any form, in the formulations of our GF philosophers. And this omission is part of the core error in these philosophies! In fact I believe I have located the core philosophical error that drives this group of errors and I may, as part of my over-all Mission and for the benefit of all sentient beings soon expound upon this---but in a separate thread.
Now, with all this as you know I assert with great power and force and a wonderful, captivating charm and zest that the Quinnist path as it is defined in his tracts is a terrible misconstrual, a tragic misconstrual, and I am aware (even if you are not) that the moths that are attracted to this lamp and which flutter about here stuck in their feed-back loops, are
octaval responses to the core expressed doctrines of Q-R-S. You should always keep this in mind though I know that this is not
your concern. The only reason, or the main reason, I appear here is to refute, challenge, overturn, add onto, modify, restate, re-blend, refashion:
rewrite. I entered onto a project of
REWRITING the QRS doctrines and I do this out of a sense of service. The basic energy, if you will, of this philosophical project is 'sound' but the platform that it established and upon which it is constructed is not sound. Everything I do is part of an effort to reconstitute the basic philosophy that is spelled out here. You
continually place yourself, with your very different understanding and position, between me an my 'adversaries': adversaries being a distortion of certain philosophical and religious principals and distortion that arises from a tightly-knit group of causes and predicates.
Yet at the same time---and Steve Pavlina seems keyed-into this issue---in a general sense we of the West tend to make some tragical errors as we come in contact with the doctrines of the East. He appears to be involved in a rebalancing, a restoration, a reinterpretation, which is also a platform and a redefinition of value. I am also speaking to 'him' and to this post-Sixties (if it can be located there) phenomenon of becoming captured by foreign installations for murky purposes and with murky results. If you wish to defend whatever
you have done with these ideas and practices I would very much like to hear about it. Intellectually, I find you generally speaking on the ball. I know more about your approach and your intentions philosophically (in the post-modern era, as you have written about) and I appreciate it. I also appreciate it that you appear here and elicit conversation.
1. A notion of "self" enables one to conquer the mountain on a bike, even winning the race, overcoming suffering with endurance.
2. The clinging to "self" spirals into deception and suffering for all those close around; a suffering rippling outwards.
I am certainly in agreement with this. Note that the activity of the first citation represents a concrete 'doing', an achieving. To act and to do requires a defined sense of values. I am very interested in the question of definition of values and as should be obvious I am often *speaking* to those who are applying an 'acid' to themselves, themselves within their own traditions, and those traditions themselves. Remember: as an Avatar I represent the Book and the Occidental Classical Traditions! That's my shtick!
And I most certainly agree with the second citation and since I am presently, but not exclusively, speaking in defense of Catholic traditions within the Occidental system, I will say that the cure for this 'problem' of self-deception that produces 'suffering for all around' is almost exactly what is proposed by the term caritas. This is precisely and exactly the core, the very core, of the question.
I will also say that it is in and around
exactly this that the fundamental error of the QRS System occurs and why one notices
here, time and time again, wounded, incomplete, jabbering, obsessed and narcissistic individuals who are drawn to the QRS lamp and who demonstrate with their every utterance just how lopsided they are and is the nourishment they take in! And I will also say it once again: it is downing these poisons and suffering their ill-effects as
it seeps into one and paralyses one from which one will
later have to recover. That is how erroneous paths that operate against certain basic human truths always seem to function! Many people here are in processes of deep recovery and healing. We have all drunk a great deal of poison but are unconscious of it.
