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Animism
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:03 pm
by Cahoot
Seems more suited for these modern times than psychological analysis of cause and effect, don't you think?
One aspect, it fosters less arrogance.
Re: Animism
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:27 pm
by Cahoot
Animism is also an aspect of the Bon influence upon Dzogchen, as is the light spectrum.
Re: Animism
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:43 pm
by Dan Rowden
And that gave us Tibetan Buddhism. Enough said, really.
Re: Animism
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:18 pm
by Cahoot
Yes, Tibetans have certainly been crushed in their homeland, as have American and Australian aboriginals, others who have put their own flavor upon an animistic view of life.
Re: Animism
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:29 pm
by Diebert van Rhijn
Cahoot wrote:Seems more suited for these modern times than psychological analysis of cause and effect, don't you think?
One aspect, it fosters less arrogance.
But possibly more fear. And isn't animism an externalization of the fact of perceiving identity (genus)? The question of how we came to it can be explained in various ways. But to imagine something residing somewhere in particular giving it nature might lead to respect but also to many wrong conclusions about how things actually work and so many horrible practices could grow out of it.
But if you want to propose it as counter-balance toward "consciousism", as if we by choice determine the nature of all beings, I could see your point.
Re: Animism
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:50 pm
by Cahoot
Diebert van Rhijn wrote:Cahoot wrote:Seems more suited for these modern times than psychological analysis of cause and effect, don't you think?
One aspect, it fosters less arrogance.
But possibly more fear. And isn't animism an externalization of the fact of perceiving identity (genus)? The question of how we came to it can be explained in various ways. But to imagine something residing somewhere in particular giving it nature might lead to respect but also to many wrong conclusions about how things actually work and so many horrible practices could grow out of it.
But if you want to propose it as counter-balance toward "consciousism", as if we by choice determine the nature of all beings, I could see your point.
Reminds me of a discussion between Carlos and Don Juan in which Carlos provides a meteorological explanation of wind, to which Don Juan replies that such an explanation is worthless for a hunter. Journey to Ixtlan, I think. Hunting ... seeking.
Horrible practices ... I have an early childhood memory of a picture, the cover of an evangelical pamphlet of a crying African child whose face was covered with ritualistic scarring.
Seeing more Western men with their earlobes elongated into cylinder-holding circles these days. Duck lips and giraffe necks may be on the horizon.
Re: Animism
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:31 am
by Unidian
Dan dislikes Tibetan Buddhism, for the record.
Personally, I do feel a great deal of attraction to shamanistic practices. They unlock realms of the subconscious and unconscious mind that are rarely accessed, and which can be very valuable in spiritual development - provided we aren't fooled by the novelty of it all and get caught up in various ego-traps. And it goes without saying that we have to keep our brains within handy access reach - no nose bones or trepanation needed.
Re: Animism
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:45 pm
by SeekerOfWisdom
At least animism is much closer to reality than the idea of life coming into being through a series of unplanned reactions in which particles bounced into each other eventually forming a scenario in which they typed this sentence :b Both are wrong.
Re: Animism
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:16 pm
by ROB
Exploited facts...
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Re: Animism
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:22 am
by brad walker
I want to better bond with my power animal, the cuttlefish.
Re: Animism
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:03 pm
by Cahoot
brad walker wrote:I want to better bond with my power animal, the cuttlefish.
Take a swim. Cuttlefish don't walk, Walker.
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Q: How did I get my name, Grandfather?
A: When you were born I stepped outside the Teepee and looked to the sky. Power brought an eagle to my vision, and thus your name. Soaring Eagle.
Q: Ah. So this is why they call you Two Dogs Fucking?
A:)
Re: Animism
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:53 pm
by Cahoot
A: Well, yes. Maybe it's because Grandad was called Bear Who Shits In The Woods that he named me that. His grandfather looked to the earth to name what is, as did he. The ancestors of our tribe have all looked to the earth. But when you were born, I looked to the sky.
Q: Why?
Re: Animism
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:57 pm
by Cahoot
A: To remind you to be free.
Re: Animism
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:50 am
by mwolf
Cahoot wrote:Seems more suited for these modern times than psychological analysis of cause and effect, don't you think?
One aspect, it fosters less arrogance.
In point of fact, the way I personally achieved my enlightenment had a great deal to do with animism. I was actually seeking to become a wolf, when I happened to become human instead.
Assume whatever you will dear readers, but if any are curious to know how this makes perfect sense, you have but to ask. Just remember that I am me, not you and that you are you, not me. We are not the same. We are different. What works for me may not work for you and what doesn't work for you in this case worked for me quite well.
I shouldn't have to state that.
Re: Animism
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:37 am
by Cahoot
With beauty before me may I walk
With beauty behind me may I walk
With beauty above me may I walk
With beauty all around me may I walk
http://www.native-american-market.com/n ... y_way.html
Logical according to the inevitability of perfection.