Beingof1: Did Jesus sin when he said " eat bread and drink wine to remember me"?
He was asking us to remember him, did he fall into error?
My interpretation of Jesus' words above is that to eat bread and drink wine is to realize that nothing of the law of the Spirit of life, including the appearance of flesh, is sinful.
If memory is the root cause of the problem, we should just use shock treatment of the frontal lobes to bring the Kingdom of God down maybe?
I know; lets all dunk our heads under water and take a deep breath to cure that awfull thing called memory?
I know this is biting sarcasm - but doggonit - you are not thinking here at all. You are simply ignoring reality and clinging to a blind belief system. I was hoping we could actually explore the mystery of the ages together sis.
Beingof1, if you have followed my posts here on the Genius forum, you will see that they address the transcendence of memory as
a continuum of the death of the idea of self. A gradual expansion of Jesus' commandment to “be in the world, but not of the world.” As for exploring the mystery of the ages, been there, done that. This is why I stopped seeking "what is God?" when I discovered the wisdom of the relationship of the appearance of matter [dualism] to Its Source. For me, the seeing of this vision was the re-solving of the Infinite God/finite world 'mystery.'
Beingof1: There are two components to reality.
moving: There are two components to man's awareness of reality. This is a different insight than what you present above.
Beingof1: Is God separate from you? Why did Jesus say "make them one Father, as you and I are one"?
Jesus said "make them one Father, as you and I are one", because of the very belief you express above, your belief that the truth of the God of reality, is that God is divided in two and is on a journey to "realize his other half or side." This is man's belief about God, which is not the truth of the Father, who is not two, but one. Which means it is man's task to undo this belief - ergo, the "making them one Father, as you and I
are one." Note he said "are one", not "becoming one."
And no, God, the law of the spirit of life, is not separate from me, whether I am living within my belief in dualism or living within my spirit-realization-dualism-transcendence.
Ok - how in blazes - and answer the question without avoiding it for your sake - are you gonna do that without knowing anything at all?
You believe you know what is good for my sake, and of the spirit of love, I acknowledge and honor your concern for my welfare. To my knowledge, I have not avoided your questions.
Travelling a path of thought that is 'right' for the traveller is not the same as knowing something absolutely, as in THE TRUTH. I do not claim to have a truth, or the truth. Only the thought continuum that says “yes, this is your way.” What I say may seem evasive to you, but this is not my intent. I am very careful about the words I use. When someone implies they have “the truth, or a truth”, that's when the “guru” syndrome rears its ugly head. If I must use the word truth and relate it to others who relate to my words, I identify my journey as the living truth of Pam, and if what I say relates to your living truth of _____, they hey, we can walk and talk this living truth together. Be spiritual friends, so to speak.
No matter what you think right now, you only are aware of half of the reality. You are pretending the other half is not there by hiding it from yourself.
I am not influenced by dualities when I recall memory, why are you? You cannot click your heels together and make it all go away.
You really should ask.
One of the “wisdom of the ages” of which you speak, and the wisdom of which I now reside, is the wisdom of the metaphysics of dualism. Which is not the wisdom of a reality-cut-in-two wherein one half is in darkness and the other half is in light, rather, the metaphysics of dualism is that there is a belief that there are two minds in God, or two sides to God, a belief that is metaphorically represented as the veil of the cherubim with the turning, flaming sword in Genesis 2. The turning, flaming sword is man's darkness of belief that God becomes conscious when matter appears in man's consciousness. That God needs to "see himself and interpret himself" in order to be God. That God "desires to know" God. The awakened one realizes this error by stilling the turning, flaming sword within himself, and seeing that God the Father knows Himself NOW, has always known himself NOW, and shall always know Himself NOW.
The moment you name something, as Adam named form, you are influenced by a duality. The duality of subject-object. The moment you then apply an “I think” to that name, you have then eaten from the knowledge of the tree of [the duality of] good and evil.
Is the universe in constant motion? If it is, does this put God in a rubber room?
The motion of thinking that arises of the turning, flaming sword does indeed put God in a rubber room, but only the God of the human mind of the turning, flaming, sword. The Spirit of God Himself, no.
Does the man who divides exist within this reality?
Yes. As a man thinks, so is he. As a man continues to think, so shall he remain. And, when he ceases dividing, the same law of the spirit of life applies.
If yes, you are avoiding the question and in denial of what goes on everyday in the world and have created an ark of fabricated escapism.
It is interesting to me that you acknowledge that man is not just a physical body, but that if I suggest that the physical body be disrobed, which is the dying of one's dual beliefs, you think I “have created an ark of fabricated escapism.”
Get a grip and answer the question or ask me.
I have answered your questions, every one. Now, your turn. Tell me how God can, in truth, be divided into two 'things' and also, in truth, remain the whole of himself.
The center of consciousness is everywhere and the edge is nowhere.
This statement is of no value to me unless you can explain to me how I attain such a consciousness. Especially if I continue dividing it in two.