You are referring to this:bluerap wrote:How is this a counter point to my point? You're just dismissing it without addressing the argument at all.cousinbasil wrote: No, it is not "the main point." It is a point. Making it the main point is far more telling than the point itself, which, as you say, amounts to little more than making an observation, such as saying "the sky is blue," when it might be gray on another day.
To support your point, you recommend one watch TV sitcoms. Which ones, specifically? You are stating a general impression you have, an impression I do not share. If you think The Honeymooners makes men and not women look like clowns, watch I Love Lucy. (Sorry if that is dated, but since I don't watch much TV, I went for vintage examples.)rap: The main point is we are raised as a society to babysit and protect the inferiorities of women with sensitive care, and to point out and laugh at those of men.
Are you suggesting we as a society stop pointing out and laughing at men's foibles, or that we should point out more and laugh at more of women's? The topic of this thread, loosely, is the writing of Esther Vilar. I have only read this one pdf which Kelly was good enough to link to. I see a fair amount of humor in it. Why is it, then, I find Kelly's analyses serious to the point of being stupefying? I must be missing something.
To summarize my counterpoint:
You draw an analogy between pointing out the ways women are inferior to men and pointing out that sparrows are inferior to parrots in language mimicry. Both, you say, are mere statements of observed facts. I then tried to suggest you are carefully choosing which facts to note - you have not demonstrated that the parrot is a superior bird.
My counterpoint is that those who target one gender as opposed to another for relentless criticism are saying more about their own psyches than about the genders upon which they are pontificating.
The argument could be made that women are largely unaware of any "double standard" when it works in their favor. This as opposed to men, who are aware of the double standard when it works in their favor, and yet continue to take advantage of it.