clyde said:
I do not dwell in a lofty realm
I was trying to convey the fact that I find men who are not misogynist to be above those who are. It wasn't meant as a slight in any way.
DHodges said:
So... women need men to come in and rescue them and protect them from these horrible comments?
I can speak for myself, and did. As did Katy and Sher. None of us
need rescue or protection from horrible comments. But, I see plenty of men around here coming to the
rescue of their
brothers when they are attacked. Is it new QRS policy to only rescue (I prefer the word defend, btw) those who have balls?
skipair said:
a woman's sexual arousal is highest when she has totally lost control, and in that sense there is a very fine line between rape and consensual sex.
Lost control to her lust perhaps, that's awesome! But not to the physical control of her own body. Losing control of the physical body to that of a rapist has nothing to do with sexual arousal - nothing! Not even to the rapist. Rape is not a sexual act per se, it is an act of violence and hatred toward the victim. Prison rape, as example, is a sexual act. It is caused by the males uncontrollable sexual drive. Probably 99.9% of prison rapes would be unheard of if the guys had access to a woman (sans the gay men). And probably the vast majority of those who had that access wouldn't want to rape the woman. I'm just guessing here, as I am not a man. I suppose I should ask; would you rape a woman if you had the chance? You seem to believe her sexual arousal is highest when she has no control. Wouldn't you want your woman to be at that point when with her?
skipair said:
There are many things that are true about women that you can never get a direct confirmation from verbally.
So you believe these
things are
true, but you have yet to hear direct conformation. That explains your ridiculous responses and beliefs about women!
skipair said:
Because once you've cracked the code to one, you've cracked the code to them all. Once you figure it out, you can SEE her, and every woman knows what it feels like to be SEEN in this way. They know who knows.
This is almost too foolish to respond to with more than a LOL - almost. If women
did have a code to be cracked, we females can all rest easy knowing you wouldn't be able to crack it.
skipair said:
As I mentioned in a previous post, the trump card for me is if it starts out consensual. If it turns into highly charged (rape-like) sex, then consent basically goes out the window.
Consent goes out the window with
rape-like sex? The fact that it is consensual is what makes it rape-
like. If consent went out the window, it would be actual rape. Are you really this illiterate?
skipair said:
It's funny, you actually think I'm making this shit up, when in reality I'm giving you the key to have whatever women you want, or even just to make your own girlfriend happier than she would ever imagine in her wildest dreams.
I am the girlfriend, and I can tell you first-hand that if Uni had any of the illusions about sex that you have, he would be in a celibate relationship!
skipair said:
From the beginning I've said I don't know what the truth is in this regard.
For someone who admits his own ignorance, you sure have a lot to say about the matter.
skipair said:
Your GF isn't interested in mind blowing, wall-shaking sex? I find that hard to believe. I find it hard to believe you're not interested either.
His girlfriend isn't interested in fantasies of rape. She wouldn't find it either mind blowing or wall-shaking. Believe it - you have my direct verbal confirmation.
Your relationship story explains a lot of where your ideas on women come from. Too bad she appears to be the only woman you have ever been with sexually! Obviously it's where you get the idea that this statement is true:
skipair said:
I have claimed universality on her need to be 100% submissive to maximize sexual experience.
One conclusion to be made in regards to this comment: you're clueless.
David Quinn said:
I'm referring specifically to Unidian (who is well-known for his love of leading mob-lynchings), Pyro (who no doubt goads him towards this behaviour), Philosophaster, and Victor (on a related thread).
I have no idea what woman in your life goads (or did goad) you toward your behavior, David. But I have never
goaded Uni into doing much of anything - aside from mowing the yard or taking out the trash. Besides, if what you say it true, why would I need to goad him into doing something you believe he loves doing anyway? duh-duh-duh
David Quinn said:
I have to pick and choose and, to be honest, I didn't find Rhett's comments all that controversial.
Can we see the number of hands who thought your response would be anything other than this?
David Quinn said:
The reality is, rape fantasies are the most common form of sexual fantasy entertained by women; most women are sexually turned on by dangerous, powerful men; most women do like to be seized and handled somewhat roughly in the act of sex (as per their rape fantasies), and women do get a lot of pleasure playing the victim card, which is what an event like being raped enables them to do.
Most common?
Most women? Care to share the studies you have read that reflect this notion? Relying on your word (on matters like this) is like asking a mouse how to build a better mouse trap. You ignore requests like this quite often. Think you could find the time in your busy schedule to answer just once?
David Quinn said:
Engaging in moral outrage is just an indulgence which will only result in the closing and diminishing of your own mind.
Really? Then slap yourself for doing just this over the trip Kevin made. Actually, don't slap yourself for the moral outrage, I doubt you have any sense of what that truly is. Slap yourself anyway. ;)
Rhett said:
I place women's values as follows: 1.Materialism 2.Man as partner 3.Sex 4.Children 5.Family 6.Friends.
Would but that we had that luxury! There
are women like that, just as there are men who are rapist. But women are more likely to be concerned with others (partner, family, friends) than themselves. It's in that thing that's called- our Nurture, er, I mean Nature. Men like to think that women just want their money, but to be honest, women who focus on what men can give them materially, usually do so because the man has little else to offer, so they take it. These types usually find each other.
Rhett said:
Women did not write "Till death do we part", but they sure love men saying it.
Women did not write "To Honor and Obey" either, but you guys sure want us to do it.
Rhett said:
Plus let's not forget how feminine most men are, especially those in pubs.
LOL
Rhett said:
And it is the imported male attitude against rape and that it should feel bad that render it a confused experience.
Would you say that a child needs an "imported male attitude" to feel 'bad' and confused if he/she were sexually molested? If not, then where does it come from?
Rhett said:
That's why we don't get to hear much from women about women's drives.
Where do you live?!
Rhett said:
A man that treats her as if she has her own mind and will, will not be favourable to her.
A man that treats
some women as if they have their own mind and will, will not be favorable to them. The fact that you guys believe all women are the same proves your ignorance comes from personal experiences rather than reality.
Rhett said:
the woman i mentioned in my anecdote left me because i treated her like a human being
Considering your views on rape and the female of the species, I don't believe that for a second. Did you actually ever ask the girl why she left you? I bet she won't say "Because you treated me with respect."
Neil said:
Since rape is usually conducted by people who are not desirable in this society, it is seen as a bad thing.
In a different society how desirable of guys raped you might be part of the status game for women.
Rapist are not desirable in this society. I think that is a given. But if you are saying something like - "If a good-looking doctor raped me I'd go bragging to the other gals," you're sick.
Dan said:
Finally, to the moral fascists who demanded I take a particular stance on this matter, or that I take any stance at all: go masturbate somewhere else. I don't have any time for that sort of drivel.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." I'll never
demand you to ever take a stance again,
If you will stop complaining that David (and the whole concept of
Woman) is
misunderstood, and that GF promotes QRS views. Until that time, I will consider you to be a "good man" who is willing to keep his "sheltered workshop" free of shit. Actually, I take that back. I could care less about your "sheltered workshop" becoming a "shithole." So, don't worry, you'll never hear me
demand anything of you again. I'll let the "shithole" do the talking.