Is it important to know your IQ?
Is it important to know your IQ?
Is a smart person who knows their IQ less smart than if they didn't know their IQ, and is a less smart person who doesn't know their IQ a bit smarter for not knowing their IQ?
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Re: Is it important to know your IQ?
Cats, the least smart is the one who doesn't know what IQ really is but still wants to discuss it on a discussionboard which advertises to be solely about wisdom, not intellectual status. The whole question shows an obsession better dropped.catsndogs wrote:Is a smart person who knows their IQ less smart than if they didn't know their IQ, and is a less smart person who doesn't know their IQ a bit smarter for not knowing their IQ?
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Have you ever considered what you are asking and why?catsndogs wrote:I have no problem with being the least smart.
So you've never considered this question?
A certain amount of IQ is awarded as an indication of a capability to do specific supervised mental tests, eg CATTELL or Wechsler. That could be to the advantage of the one doing the test, like knowing where ones talents lie. Strong abstraction or association skills do not equal the skill to reason properly so it doesn't seem to have not much to do with being 'smart' in general, which would just mean having a healthy developed reason. Of course a strong lack in the capability of doing abstraction or making association will make it almost impossible to reason properly, so the inverse might be true: knowing ones lack of IQ, or any other mental deficiency might make that person 'smarter' in the sense of knowing ones own weaknesses.
Around the idea of 'high intelligence' and 'gifted' are hanging the same nervous, ego-feeding expectations as for example 'enlightenment'. So for weak people with a feeble and starved ego it would be better not to know their IQ, if above average, or to have even any title like 'PhD' or any status-invoking name or number. Their ignorance about themselves and the world would probably only grow with it; a new pair of blinders on an even higher horse.
For others it could be just some tool, an indication of a potential or development in certain areas. Could be an advantage in many situations, providing some clarity. Not much more, a limit all labels have.
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catsndogs,
I detect an element of insincerity here .....
As far as I'm aware, no one here gives a thought about what their IQ is, or rates it as an important issue. But this fact alone doesn't make them smarter. What makes a person smart is his ability to reason consistently, in all matters, without fear or bias. This is a very rare skill that even people with high IQs have trouble with.
If you're interested, I wrote an essay a couple of years ago on the problems with having a high IQ - here.
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You don't mind being a moron?I have no problem with being the least smart.
I detect an element of insincerity here .....
As far as I'm aware, no one here gives a thought about what their IQ is, or rates it as an important issue. But this fact alone doesn't make them smarter. What makes a person smart is his ability to reason consistently, in all matters, without fear or bias. This is a very rare skill that even people with high IQs have trouble with.
If you're interested, I wrote an essay a couple of years ago on the problems with having a high IQ - here.
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Moron? who said anything about being a moron? It's a genius board, being the least smart would not necessarily mean that at all.DavidQuinn000 wrote:catsndogs,
You don't mind being a moron?I have no problem with being the least smart.
I detect an element of insincerity here .....
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Being the least smart in one topic has no bearing on any other topic. So to then jump to the insincerity theme is two jumps within one moment.
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The question within a question is, is it important to be tested if the result may affect your view of yourself in a way that may not be controllable?
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catsndogs,
Why?
Is this some sort of erotic fetish on your part?
Echoing Diebert's query, why the obsession with this issue?
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Let's see if I've got this right. You want to be the least intelligent in a group of people - but only when the group consists of intelligent people and not dunderheads? In other words, you want to be intrinsically intelligent, but not seen to be so ...?Moron? who said anything about being a moron? It's a genius board, being the least smart would not necessarily mean that at all.
Why?
Is this some sort of erotic fetish on your part?
As far as I can see, it isn't important in any context.The question within a question is, is it important to be tested if the result may affect your view of yourself in a way that may not be controllable?
Echoing Diebert's query, why the obsession with this issue?
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catsndogs,
I can imagine an overtly submissive person getting sexually aroused by his own humble poses. A bit like a woman excitedly falling limp in the arms of a strong man who is sweeping her off her feet. A form of religious swooning.
What do you think wisdom is? Do you have any ideas?
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Well, let's ask them. Anybody here care?So nobody here cares what their IQ is nor knows what it is?
I can't think of any reason that is connected to wisdom or genius. So it has to come from somewhere else.Erotic fetish?
I can imagine an overtly submissive person getting sexually aroused by his own humble poses. A bit like a woman excitedly falling limp in the arms of a strong man who is sweeping her off her feet. A form of religious swooning.
Only silly ones.Now there's harm in asking questions?
What do you think wisdom is? Do you have any ideas?
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Whenever i hear an I.Q. score i naturally place it on a scale from zero to ten-thousand.DavidQuinn000 wrote:Well, let's ask them. Anybody here care?catsndogs: So nobody here cares what their IQ is nor knows what it is?
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So the first time one gets tested, is it reasonable to always go ahead and do the test? Could it possibily be that when the first time one gets tested is just as important as the test itself?Diebert van Rhijn wrote:Have you ever considered what you are asking and why?catsndogs wrote:I have no problem with being the least smart.
So you've never considered this question?
A certain amount of IQ is awarded as an indication of a capability to do specific supervised mental tests, eg CATTELL or Wechsler. That could be to the advantage of the one doing the test, like knowing where ones talents lie. Strong abstraction or association skills do not equal the skill to reason properly so it doesn't seem to have not much to do with being 'smart' in general, which would just mean having a healthy developed reason. Of course a strong lack in the capability of doing abstraction or making association will make it almost impossible to reason properly, so the inverse might be true: knowing ones lack of IQ, or any other mental deficiency might make that person 'smarter' in the sense of knowing ones own weaknesses.
Around the idea of 'high intelligence' and 'gifted' are hanging the same nervous, ego-feeding expectations as for example 'enlightenment'. So for weak people with a feeble and starved ego it would be better not to know their IQ, if above average, or to have even any title like 'PhD' or any status-invoking name or number. Their ignorance about themselves and the world would probably only grow with it; a new pair of blinders on an even higher horse.
For others it could be just some tool, an indication of a potential or development in certain areas. Could be an advantage in many situations, providing some clarity. Not much more, a limit all labels have.
Re: Is it important to know your IQ?
catsndogs wrote:Is a smart person who knows their IQ less smart than if they didn't know their IQ, and is a less smart person who doesn't know their IQ a bit smarter for not knowing their IQ?
It was a simple, simple question.
I went back and read my original question and the topic changing answers, genius and arrogance are twins.
From this simple question came responses that were accusatory and hostile directed towards the questioner rather than simply anaswering the question.
I think the original question is something that can make for fun comments, just not the from jaded element that haunts?, enhabits?, resides? here.
They say it takes three times for people to get it....
So for the third time....
catsndogs wrote:Is a smart person who knows their IQ less smart than if they didn't know their IQ, and is a less smart person who doesn't know their IQ a bit smarter for not knowing their IQ?
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DavidQuinn000 wrote:No one has been hostile or accusatory towards you. However, it's not entirely obvious why you are asking this question and what significance it has. I, for one, don't see the "fun" element in it.
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Cats, the least smart is the one who doesn't know what IQ really is but still wants to discuss it on a discussionboard which advertises to be solely about wisdom, not intellectual status. The whole question shows an obsession better dropped.
Have you ever considered what you are asking and why?
You don't mind being a moron?
Is this some sort of erotic fetish on your part?
I can't think of any reason that is connected to wisdom or genius. So it has to come from somewhere else.
I can imagine an overtly submissive person getting sexually aroused by his own humble poses. A bit like a woman excitedly falling limp in the arms of a strong man who is sweeping her off her feet. A form of religious swooning.
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Anybody here care?
No.
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Clearly being a "genius" is about a hijacking a thread while it taxis down the runway.
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importance is an opinion
anyways
Is a smart person who knows their IQ less smart than if they didn't know their IQ, and is a less smart person who doesn't know their IQ a bit smarter for not knowing their IQ?
im pretty sure that answer is no
im guessing my IQ ranges between 20-300 in the mood i am in
anyways
Is a smart person who knows their IQ less smart than if they didn't know their IQ, and is a less smart person who doesn't know their IQ a bit smarter for not knowing their IQ?
im pretty sure that answer is no
im guessing my IQ ranges between 20-300 in the mood i am in
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