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Emotional stability indicates a lack of underlying problems. I think you are confusing emotional stability with emotional flatness, which would indicate a problem.
Good point...so do you know anyone who is truly emotionally stable? I don't.
Joker,
A wise person, by definition, is one who is not deluded.
A foolish person, by definition, is one who is deluded, but he need not be deluded about everything. It's entirely possible a fool may realize he is lacking in wisdom (although impossible that he understand just how much depth he is lacking). It's even possible that he may have what can---comparatively or analogically---be called "wisdom" if he has a cursory understanding of his foolishness, but this does not make him a wise man. It certainly doesn't make him enlightened.
Exactly right! To make it witty and kind of catchy: There are no wise people, only fools with wisdom.
For a joker, you're pretty bright.
Actually, Scott, looking back over your last post it's obvious you are unable to grasp simple definitions. For instance, you write:
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Every body decays as well as grows. I've tried to be healthy for a few years now and you can get close, but death is imminent. There is no cure.
There's a clear difference between health and immortality. Apparently "healthy lifestyle" to you means "immortal".
Not necessarily. I know that "healthy lifestyle" means you make choices which contribute to your feeling good, and which lengthen your lifespan. I say that it's not our choice whether we feel good or how long we live. Not just in terms of disaster striking, or a disease suddenly striking us down.
I mean we don't know what makes us healthy. Some suggest breathing exercises...but the fact is that those can be damaging over time. Some suggest higher fiber intake, but that can end up causing digestive problems instead of just relieving them. Some say don't eat simple sugars, but then you feel lethargic and stupid. The list could go on.
Okay it will. People say running is good for you, yet look at what it does to many people's knees and ankles. Lifting weights? Joint problems down the road. The list could go on.
So you want more? Take modern medicine's side effects for example. Treating your heart condition, for example, and then acquiring a new condition. Or how about treating coughs (which is your body's natural defense against foreign materials) with cough suppressants.
What I've found is that the body is built to survive, not to be healthy. When you start trying to make it healthy, you can experience problems. I have yet to find an effective means of feeling good all the time. You must realize I'm overexaggerating to make a point. I know of many healthy things to do, and I'm relatively free of sickness. So, I am making kind of a stupid point...whatever, I'm done arguing about it. Lets say you proved me wrong there.
Sapius,
Although I understand what you say, I really wouldn’t go that far, because your final statement as a whole can be considered as delusional then. The understanding that all is delusion, if delusional, then one better not utter a word. The realization that all is delusion, and that is all that there is, leaves utterly nothing otherwise, so what is not Reality? Including the chasing of/for "enlightenment", or any realization thereof.
That's not true. A deluded person can know some truths rationally. Them being deluded doesn't make the truths into falsehoods.
I never said "all is delusion". As a matter of fact, all is reality. What I did say is that there is no enlightenment.
Yes, as, I think Elizabeth (if I am not mistaken) generally puts it, the word ‘enlightenment’ carries too much baggage with it, and that generally is a highly false-ego based baggage and a real heavy one too, or say an egotistical baggage. Otherwise, I have nothing against the word itself if one is not attached too deeply, as to its “profound significance†so to speak, but I prefer not to use it much, any ways.
The problem I have is not just with the word, but the "path" itself. What it does to people.