brokenhead wrote:But let's go with your definition that a misogynist is a man who hates women's feeble-mindedness. Now if you have contempt for a person's feeblemindedness, you have contempt for that person. Agreed?
yes, what's your point?
You use the term "quantitative." Where do you get the idea that women are quantitatively more feeble-minded than men? Do you mean there are more feeble-minded women than there are feeble-minded men? I'm sure that's true. Because there are more women than men.
there isn't MUCH more women than men, the ratio isn't like 50:1. Also are you saying there's more women in the world than men? Can you prove me this?
I am well aware of the stereotypes that exist about women's "feeble minds." The Bimbo, for instance. What does the existence of a stereotype prove? It proves nothing, but it does indicate that there are actually living people out there who fit it to a tee. Well, so what? Are you telling me that in your experience women have weak minds? If so, I am telling you that in my experience, there is no evidence that one gender has it over the other.
I think men on average atleast *value* things more than women. Let's look at the teenager population as a whole, especially in the West. Just looking at this population, would you say there's an equal amount of "bimbo" girls and stupid men? From my experience, universities are loaded with girls, and almost none of them deserve to be there. You have universities, where intellectual growth is the main purpose, filled with girls who don't care about real intellectual growth. Girls are more credulous and uncritical, they don't actually care whether something is *true* or not or if it has any value, they rather *please* the teacher than question them. I think girls do this much more than men, atleast men care about say politics and civil liberties, most teenage girls have no such interest, they don't care about their destiny, they've abandoned themselves to society, as Celia Green said. It's no wonder, that everything that Schopenhauer says in his essay On Women, is exactly the same as me and other people have seen happen, that's not a coincidence.
I think your point is that women do not have to achieve in the intellectual arena as much as men do. They can look for a man in the desired socioeconomic strata, and then hook him like a fish.
it's not that they don't have to, it's that they don't *want* to, they don't *value* important things.
I think you suffer from womb-envy. The truth is that it's the women who have the babies. That makes them societally different from men. On this level, you cannot compare the two from an idealistic standpoint. It is simple biology.
what the hell is this???? Here's another good example of
feminine logican oxymoron of a word. Women have the babies, so what? why would that make them societally different from men? Just because women have babies they have a priveladge and a right to be stupid and credulous and uncritical? Why would I be envious of being credulous and uncritical? I can compare the two perfectly well because apparently women have brains, but unfortunately they don't use them, perhaps their brains is their womb, or better yet their vagina.
In the world on TV, women seem to outnumber men in the audiences of mindless talk shows. And the talk shows themselves seemed aimed at the basic hausfrau. Maybe the reason women seem "quantitatively" more feeble-minded is that they talk more on TV.
that's just more evidence for my position then. It's not that it "seems" like it, it's because it IS it.
True. Men are more capable of becoming less deluded because they have more delusions to begin with.
men and women both have the same number of delusions when they don't see Truth. It's just manifested in different ways.
Faust13, I can't harbor the kind of "contempt" you are speaking of. I just can't. Life is too short, too hard.
I don't know what this is supposed to mean. You don't forget about things because "life is too short, too hard" sounds very feminine to me.
Like I said, you would have to look at the quantitative difference, so far I'm still convinced that more women than men are feeble-minded and cowardly, but I guess the evidence still needs to be found more.
