A Final Solution to Woo-min, the Perennial Problem

Discussion of the nature of Ultimate Reality and the path to Enlightenment.
Elizabeth Isabelle
Posts: 3771
Joined: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:35 am

Post by Elizabeth Isabelle »

sschaula wrote:
This is not a very well thought out statement. You haven't even described wha kind of interest you are talking about. If you mean any kind of interest then you are completely off point. There are reasons aside from fucking to want to discuss women.
Like what? That's pretty much what it boils down to.
Well gee Scott, if that's all you want, just go get the inflatable kind.
.
User avatar
PyroSylph
Posts: 31
Joined: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:53 am

...

Post by PyroSylph »

Sher,

Uh, I thought you were the one taking the bets, not making them. You do know how this works, don't you?
sschaula
Posts: 1317
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:16 am
Location: USA

Post by sschaula »

E,

I hope you know you've misunderstood what I was saying, and that you're just playing around. To be serious, like I love being, I don't simply want pussy from women. I don't think anyone else here does, either. It'd be easy to get that. But it's hard to relate to the opposite sex.

I think it all boils down to procreation...yea. But don't reduce anyone to a walking penis.

Sher,

College is a bad place? Where is a better one?
- Scott
User avatar
Nick
Posts: 1677
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:39 pm
Location: Detroit, Michigan

Post by Nick »

sschaula wrote:Like what? That's pretty much what it boils down to.
How about to expose and eliminate the woman in you.
sschaula
Posts: 1317
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:16 am
Location: USA

Post by sschaula »

Wow....isn't that what I've been doing in this topic? I'm tempted to call you a dumbass, Nick, but that would be rude.

Let me ask a question - what if discussing our own self improvement in terms of woman/man is hindering our progress?
- Scott
Elizabeth Isabelle
Posts: 3771
Joined: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:35 am

Post by Elizabeth Isabelle »

sschaula wrote:E,

I hope you know you've misunderstood what I was saying, and that you're just playing around.
I know. Sometimes I respond to what was said rather than what was meant for a variety of purposes. My purpose this time was teasing for a humorous effect.
.
User avatar
Nick
Posts: 1677
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:39 pm
Location: Detroit, Michigan

Post by Nick »

sschaula wrote:Wow....isn't that what I've been doing in this topic?
You are doing a pretty terrible job of it by make statements like this:

Scott - "If a guy isn't interested in women, he won't display interest."

This statement says nothing. Nevermind the fact that there is too many philosophical reasons that a man should be interested in Woman.
sschaula wrote:Let me ask a question - what if discussing our own self improvement in terms of woman/man is hindering our progress?
What if? If discussing self improvement in this manner doesn't help someone, it's not because of the method that their progress is being hindered, it's because they don't have the ability to do so in the first place.
Leyla Shen
Posts: 3851
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:12 pm
Location: Flippen-well AUSTRALIA

WOMAN, THE TRIVIAL?

Post by Leyla Shen »

…the woman in you
Every time someone utters those words, I think of Ben Harper. I don’t believe I’ve ever heard such a concise and passionate lament as his.

Some things never change, some things never stay the same
But you’re so innocent, I’ll take all the blame
Now, I hate to remember for that means the days have passed
Sometimes I wonder if I know her or if I really need to ask?

The woman in you is the worry in me…

Half a man walks with no shadow, of life he utters his distaste
No apology is expected
Love carved sorry in his face


.
sschaula
Posts: 1317
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:16 am
Location: USA

Post by sschaula »

Nick,
You are doing a pretty terrible job of it by make statements like this:

Scott - "If a guy isn't interested in women, he won't display interest."
Much better than "should we eat women, or send them to Venus" etc. Real sages don't participate in wank fests, nor do they attend TSFMWDPET meetings.

(the society for men who dont produce enough testosterone)
This statement says nothing. Nevermind the fact that there is too many philosophical reasons that a man should be interested in Woman.
I like how blindly you've taken to the spoonfeeding...not even asking mommy what's in it. That's a good little boy. Goo goo gah gah.

There are no philosophical reasons why man should be interested in woman. Being interested in my car, or in vaseline, or in the latest movie, is just as philosophical...and that's not very philosophical!

If things have no inherent existence, which is the fundamental absolute truth, then why is one thing greater than another to you? It shows a lack of philosophy, and also a lack of getting any, that you philosophers have been discussing things like this.

You could get by without getting any if you added a bit more philosophy to the mix. And you would do very well if you took the stupidity out of the mix. Philosophy and stupidity are like ketchup and peanut butter...they don't really go so well together. With such a concoction, topics like this exceed one page.
What if? If discussing self improvement in this manner doesn't help someone, it's not because of the method that their progress is being hindered, it's because they don't have the ability to do so in the first place.
Talking about how women should be dealt with...eaten, sent to venus, used as baby machines, etc...helps some people improve? Haha.
- Scott
Leyla Shen
Posts: 3851
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:12 pm
Location: Flippen-well AUSTRALIA

Post by Leyla Shen »

PS: Breaks my heart listening to him sing it---oh, the sweet indulgence; the sweet, sweet jouissance...

.
User avatar
David Quinn
Posts: 5708
Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2001 6:56 am
Location: Australia
Contact:

Post by David Quinn »

There is not much point in taking Scott's words seriously. He is looking for Miss Right. When he finds her, he will not give philosophy another thought again.

All this "there is no enlightenment/everyone is a fool/everything is equal" spiel is simply his way of ensuring a smooth transition. He is laying the groundwork for leaving philosophy behind.

-
User avatar
Shahrazad
Posts: 1813
Joined: Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:03 pm

Post by Shahrazad »

College is a bad place? Where is a better one?
Hmm. Maybe you ought to look in another country.

Your country is bad for finding good, clean women and mine is bad for finding men. If only we could trade places.

.
sschaula
Posts: 1317
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:16 am
Location: USA

Post by sschaula »

DQ addressed the herd,
There is not much point in taking Scott's words seriously.
There is not much point in taking David's words seriously. Think for yourself.
He is looking for Miss Right.
Are you not? You and every other man here seems pretty obsessed with the eternal "her". I am sick of trying to shove down my natural feelings in an attempt to be more wise. I think it's unwise to do that.
When he finds her, he will not give philosophy another thought again.
That's impossible. It will always remain with me, until I die.
All this "there is no enlightenment/everyone is a fool/everything is equal" spiel is simply his way of ensuring a smooth transition. He is laying the groundwork for leaving philosophy behind.
So dramatic. I think there was a smooth enough transition when I just left the forum. I didn't look back until the other day when I decided I'd check this place out again.

Did my thinking and philosophy stop when I left the forum? No. You can't just forget about things you've thought of. Even if you don't like it they remain with you, at least in the back of your mind.

My spiel is philosophical in nature. It's about the destruction of pseudo-wisdom, but not about any destruction of philosophy.
- Scott
sschaula
Posts: 1317
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:16 am
Location: USA

Post by sschaula »

Where do you live Shah?
- Scott
User avatar
Dan Rowden
Posts: 5739
Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2001 8:03 pm
Contact:

Post by Dan Rowden »

Think of a nation that the US invaded in the 80's.
User avatar
Shahrazad
Posts: 1813
Joined: Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:03 pm

Post by Shahrazad »

Panama. I am single not totally by choice. Latin men make the worst husbands ever.

As far as the women here, there are enough for each man to have 5 or 6. You can be real picky if you want to.
.
User avatar
Nick
Posts: 1677
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:39 pm
Location: Detroit, Michigan

Post by Nick »

sschaula wrote:Much better than "should we eat women, or send them to Venus" etc. Real sages don't participate in wank fests, nor do they attend TSFMWDPET meetings.
Actually it's not.
sschaula wrote:I like how blindly you've taken to the spoonfeeding...not even asking mommy what's in it. That's a good little boy. Goo goo gah gah.

There are no philosophical reasons why man should be interested in woman. Being interested in my car, or in vaseline, or in the latest movie, is just as philosophical...and that's not very philosophical!
I love how people who knock the "woman thing" on this forum always end up revealing that they only wish to keep women their personal toy or servant.
sschaula wrote:If things have no inherent existence, which is the fundamental absolute truth, then why is one thing greater than another to you? It shows a lack of philosophy, and also a lack of getting any, that you philosophers have been discussing things like this.
So you discuss and regard all things as equally significant in relation to yourself? Well, good luck with that!
sschaula wrote:You could get by without getting any if you added a bit more philosophy to the mix. And you would do very well if you took the stupidity out of the mix. Philosophy and stupidity are like ketchup and peanut butter...they don't really go so well together.
You are a fine example of this.
sschaula wrote:Talking about how women should be dealt with...eaten, sent to venus, used as baby machines, etc...helps some people improve? Haha.
What can I say except that you're hopeless.
User avatar
Shahrazad
Posts: 1813
Joined: Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:03 pm

Post by Shahrazad »

Dan, sorry. I was preparing my post when you posted yours. That's what I get for being a slow typist.

.
sschaula
Posts: 1317
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:16 am
Location: USA

Post by sschaula »

Shah,

Cool. Thanks for the tip.

Nick,
Actually it's not.
Actually it is.
I love how people who knock the "woman thing" on this forum always end up revealing that they only wish to keep women their personal toy or servant.
I'm not going to deny that I wish that. Man, by nature, is this way. Anyone who denies it is a liar...and never anything more than a liar.

Me being this way says nothing about how I truly view women. It just says something about my sexual/emotional urges. It says that I have a penis, and it works. Says that the "primitive" parts of my brain and nervous system still function.

No man on this forum doesn't want to keep women as their own. Every man here wants to be able to have her. I'm not going to take myself out of that barrel of monkeys, I too want that. So what? Does that make me unwise? Does it make those who lie to themselves more intelligent than I?
So you discuss and regard all things as equally significant in relation to yourself? Well, good luck with that!
Yep, it's quite hard from a human viewpoint. In fact, it's impossible...which is why I don't claim to be wise, and why I say this is a waste of time. Because when the philosophical journey ends, you find yourself back where you started.
You are a fine example of this.
As are you.
What can I say except that you're hopeless.
What can I say except that there's hope for you, if only you'd pull your head out of your ass?
- Scott
User avatar
Nick
Posts: 1677
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:39 pm
Location: Detroit, Michigan

Post by Nick »

sschaula wrote:I'm not going to deny that I wish that. Man, by nature, is this way. Anyone who denies it is a liar...and never anything more than a liar.
Man by nature is many ways, it just depends on which of his ways you value most.
sschaula wrote:Me being this way says nothing about how I truly view women. It just says something about my sexual/emotional urges. It says that I have a penis, and it works. Says that the "primitive" parts of my brain and nervous system still function.
I think it says a lot about how you truly view women. You're stand-offish attitude towards the way women are discussed on this forum is reflective of your attachment to her, and unwillingness to bother with overcoming it.
sschaula wrote:No man on this forum doesn't want to keep women as their own. Every man here wants to be able to have her. I'm not going to take myself out of that barrel of monkeys, I too want that. So what? Does that make me unwise? Does it make those who lie to themselves more intelligent than I?
Like I said before, it's about values.
sschaula wrote:Yep, it's quite hard from a human viewpoint. In fact, it's impossible...which is why I don't claim to be wise, and why I say this is a waste of time. Because when the philosophical journey ends, you find yourself back where you started.
Actually I believe you, in another thread you said "wisdom sucks and ignorance sucks". When everything sucks I guess you can honestly say nothing is more significant than the other. Maybe you really are a nihilist and you just haven't come to terms with it yet.
sschaula
Posts: 1317
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:16 am
Location: USA

Post by sschaula »

Man by nature is many ways, it just depends on which of his ways you value most.
Man doesn't erradicate his attraction to woman from his biology by any means.
I think it says a lot about how you truly view women. You're stand-offish attitude towards the way women are discussed on this forum is reflective of your attachment to her, and unwillingness to bother with overcoming it.
You thought wrong. I used to be one of the people talking about women in this way. I just took my head out of my ass. I already "overcame her" in the way every other person has here...little good that did, seeing as how it doesn't go away. It's only corrupted my view of who women are. It especially does so from a distance.
Like I said before, it's about values.
Bullshit.
Actually I believe you, in another thread you said "wisdom sucks and ignorance sucks". When everything sucks I guess you can honestly say nothing is more significant than the other. Maybe you really are a nihilist and you just haven't come to terms with it yet.
The only problem is that I never said everything sucks.

Why do you bicker on an internet messageboard, like a bitch, Nick?
- Scott
User avatar
Nick
Posts: 1677
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:39 pm
Location: Detroit, Michigan

Post by Nick »

sschaula wrote:Man doesn't erradicate his attraction to woman from his biology by any means.
He can erradicate it from is psychology. Besides I wasn't talking about eradication, just pointing out that you can choose to not let primitive impulses control your mind. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean others can't. You are kind of like a psychological socialist, or dare I say communist.
sschaula wrote:I already "overcame her" in the way every other person has here...little good that did, seeing as how it doesn't go away. It's only corrupted my view of who women are. It especially does so from a distance.
You haven't overcome anything, you failed and you know it. I even recall you saying before you left the forum a while back that you were planning on dating a few women. So what are you here for?
sschaula wrote:The only problem is that I never said everything sucks.
All actions are either based in ignorance or wisdom, when you said you think that both "suck" you're inferring that everything we do is for "a sucky reason". This wreaks of nihilism.
sschaula wrote:Why do you bicker on an internet messageboard, like a bitch, Nick?
What's the matter, getting tired of having to face your ignorance?
sschaula
Posts: 1317
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:16 am
Location: USA

Post by sschaula »

Nick,

This is getting boring...
He can erradicate it from is psychology. Besides I wasn't talking about eradication, just pointing out that you can choose to not let primitive impulses control your mind. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean others can't. You are kind of like a psychological socialist, or dare I say communist.
You're kind of like an annoying dick. But regarding what you said - you can choose not to let primitive impulses control your mind but that doesn't get rid of them. So if I admit to wanting to conquer women sexually, or whatever it was I admitted to, then it says nothing about me in the sense that you're talking about. In the sense of what I do with my primitive impulses in regards to my actions.
You haven't overcome anything, you failed and you know it. I even recall you saying before you left the forum a while back that you were planning on dating a few women. So what are you here for?
Yes I have "overcome woman". You don't know how my personal life has been. For the past year and a half I've avoided the opposite sex and looked from a distance, seeing what they were like.

Now I just don't give a fuck about these stupid games you guys play with eachother. I don't see any problem with women. The only problem I see is in myself, in those primal urges we were talking about.

I don't remember saying I would date some women, but I wouldn't have held myself back. I'm not trying to avoid them. What am I here for? I don't know...to bicker with you? I'm certainly not coming here to make stupid jokes that reveal my lack of sex and obvious need for it.

What are YOU here for? Support?
All actions are either based in ignorance or wisdom, when you said you think that both "suck" you're inferring that everything we do is for "a sucky reason". This wreaks of nihilism.
Uhhh...that's kind of sucky reasoning that you've got there.
What's the matter, getting tired of having to face your ignorance?
I'm used to it. What else could there be? I certainly don't have the stupid idea that I could one day stop facing it.
- Scott
User avatar
Katy
Posts: 599
Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:08 am
Location: Georgia
Contact:

Post by Katy »

Dan Rowden wrote:Think of a nation that the US invaded in the 80's.
Iran? El Salvador? Libya? Sinai? Lebanon? Egypt? Grenada? Honduras? Chad? Bolivia? Colombia? Bolivia? Peru? Philippines? Liberia?

What? Surely you didn't think Panama was unique...
-Katy
User avatar
Shahrazad
Posts: 1813
Joined: Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:03 pm

Post by Shahrazad »

Of course not. But he certainly narrowed it down a lot.

He could've narrowed it down more by saying "the last US invasion of the 80s, which ran right into the 90s. The one that was used to test stealth planes before invading Iraq."

.
Locked