Gold diggers

[Kevin Solway]

Sometimes people ask me why I have spent so much of my life in the single state, without a girlfriend. I reply that one of the reasons is that I've never had any offers, and that women aren't exactly queing up at my door. There's probably a degree of truth in that explanation.

When they ask me to venture an explanation for this lack of interest from women, I reply that the main reason is that I don't have enough money.

This too I believe to be true, since any man who is a half decent human being, or even a quarter decent, or not decent at all for that matter, will attract the attentions of women provided he has enough money and status in the community.

Then I heard some song lyrics from a music video the other day, that went something like this:

"I ain't saying she's a gold-digger,
But she don't hang with no broke nigger."

Summed it up very well I thought.

[Notorious]

Alot of people necessarily go for people (in terms of dating or relationships) for their money, but rather the money is an attractive quality.

[Leyla Shen]

You know, Kevin, you're beggining to sound like Donna on this issue in a very fundamental way.

Just a little less poetic.

(Top tune, though.)

[MKFaizi]

I mentioned that song on the Brothel, I reckon. I think it sums things up very well. If you want a real hoot, watch the video.

Get down, girl, go 'head, get down.

And people think rap lyrics are inane.

The original song is by Ray Charles.

Faizi

[sevens]

Sigh

[Kevin Solway]

Of course, if it is a high priority of a woman to have several children - and it often is - then she would be foolish to spend precious hours of her life with a man who has no financial prospects.

While men have a tendency to overlook physically unnattractive women, a man can invest time and effort in getting to know such women, since he has much less to lose in this regard.

[MKFaizi]

A smart woman who is capable of manipulating men would not fool with a broke nigger. Personally, I was never that smart. I was always digging for intellectual gold. Generally, came up very short.

In my quest to understand murder, I recently read an account of a woman who was a very attractive waitress who married a very rich, lonely, kindly man for his money. He cared for her daughters, too. Nice guy.

She had him killed.

All she had to do was to be nice to this man until he died. That's all. Just be nice to him. She had all the money in the world.

She couldn't even manage that.

Anyway, I like the Golddigger song. Great video. Lots of women dressed up like clowns. Not like real clowns but clowns nevertheless. The grimace on one overly made up girl's face is priceless when the song says, "Then, leave you for a white girl."

But men never learn. Such suckers.

Faizi

[Notorious]

A smart woman who is capable of manipulating men would not fool with a broke nigger.

This is comedy.

[pakistanman]

A smart woman who is capable of manipulating men would not fool with a broke nigger. Personally, I was never that smart. I was always digging for intellectual gold. Generally, came up very short.

Faizi

are you putting down your babies daddy? god mom your mean!

[Matt Gregory]

Uh-oh Marsha, I think you've just been busted by Buster!

[Rhett]

. . . any man who is a half decent human being, or even a quarter decent, or not decent at all for that matter, will attract the attentions of women provided he has enough money and status in the community.

I wonder if Siddarta kept getting offers.


One of my next door neighbour's is a young girl, about 11 or 12 years old. She's now in the very early stages of puberty, and she's begun trying to woo me. I was going to say she's practising, but that's not really the case, i do think it's for real. In this day-and-age she has a relatively small world, and i'm right next door, and own 1.2 acres, which i'm slowly developing. For this and other reasons i would appear a good prospect for her, despite being about 17 or 18 years older. She's even asked me my age, and was pleasantly surprised when i said 30. Quite pleasantly surprised in fact, she stumbled to hide her delight. She thought i was older.

On top of that, she has inspected my premises, and prompted me to discard a well-used fly-strip, and helped me to do it. She has asked me if i am lonely, 'what do i do in the evenings by myself?'. She cannot imagine solitariness being desirable, and through these subtle questions painted it in a negative light. Make him unpleasant without her.

Her mother is a well-versed partly-masculine buddhist, and she is definitely playing a role in this. She has already said that her daughter will grow tall and she'll need a tall male . . . like me. How about me? She clings strongly to motherhood, she would love to bring the downfall of a buddha, regardless of her buddhist attachments.


At the earliest onset of puberty, the young girl begins practising the art of wooing in earnest. She is by no means a stranger to this black art, but the time has come, it's purpose has become clear. She will find the nearest man that fits her loose and flexible requirements - he will not be far otherwise he would be outside her world, and mould herself to his needs. And then him to her needs.


Wooing is like mooing. 'She' will stand there or adopt a posture and essentially disappear, allowing the male to project all that he will.

[Sapius]

When they ask me to venture an explanation for this lack of interest from women, I reply that the main reason is that I don't have enough money.

Kevin, I don't think that would be the main reason for a person of your kind. Even if you had the money, it would most probably be your truthfulness about what you think about femininity that will send them seven seas away.

[MKFaizi]

Nosey brat.

You need to work on your grammar and spelling, Buster. Do your homework and go to bed. Let the grownups talk.

I did not marry your father for his intellect. I married him for his culture.

Good night.

Ma

[MKFaizi]

It is so hard for me to imagine a girl of twelve finding a man of thirty attractive. I have been around many, many girls that age and they consider someone thirty to be very old.

Even my seventeen year old daughter thinks that thirty is old.

Certainly, such a thing is possible but are you sure that you are not misinterpreting something? Either way, I would be very careful around her if I were you.

Faizi

[Rhett]

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It is so hard for me to imagine a girl of twelve finding a man of thirty attractive. I have been around many, many girls that age and they consider someone thirty to be very old.

Even my seventeen year old daughter thinks that thirty is old.

Certainly, such a thing is possible but are you sure that you are not misinterpreting something?

As i mentioned she has few choices, apart from a younger male playmate, i am closest to her in age. She is currently being home-schooled. Consider that humans have been raised in small groupings for thousands of years, to be able to accomodate these differences would be biologically advantageous; to dig for gold wherever they can find it you might say. If another younger bloke came along she may immediately shift her attention upon him.

Realistically, this is mostly practise for her, as i'm sure she'll find another interest in the coming years, but she has shown a long-term perspective which is how women commonly view men. She has assessed my assets and my ability to provide, and whether i am in need of her. My lack of the latter has dented her interest considerably, but she's still hoping, and trying new tricks to stimulate a response.

She has also been primed for Motherhood by her mother recently having another child and her helping raise it. Motherhood must be so tempting, a socially adored excise of absolute control. The loss of self to endless and mindless chores combined with complete dictates over others, often the husband as well. Treated like a Goddess, for being nothing.

Either way, I would be very careful around her if I were you.

I am. She is safer with me than her mother, or any other mother for that matter, except perhaps yourself Marsha.

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[Tomas]

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-kevin-
Kevin Solway - Sometimes people ask me why I have spent so much of my life in the single state, without a girlfriend. I reply that one of the reasons is that I've never had any offers, and that women aren't exactly queing up at my door. There's probably a degree of truth in that explanation.

-tomas-
Well, good buddy. You best learn to raise those eyebrows (it clues her in) that you have interest in her physical being. Once you delve past her looks, then you explore the mind a bit (keep it real light). She still there? then comment that you'll be dining at such-and-such place later on... would like to join me if your schedule permits? If not this evening, perhaps tomorrow? Just be sure to have some place to go later after lunch/dinner on a Saturday (the old dinner and a movie rarely fail!) Better to be near your home if you don't have wheels... if she reciprocates she doesn't care if you drive or not. Be ready to spring for the taxi-cab fare tho.




-kevin-
When they ask me to venture an explanation for this lack of interest from women, I reply that the main reason is that I don't have enough money.

-tomas-
If my above comments aren't working, get a job man, you know?... living on a hermit's welfare check sure ain't a genius way of passing life... if you don't care to work for "the man" ... try doing jobs that pay cash under the table - no taxes!

I wouldn't think taking up the marijuana dealer persona is your schtik.

Consider a change of clothing... you still living the 1970s lifestyle with long hair & beard? Change that and toss out the bell bottoms and assorted flower shirts. Stop burning incense - it reeks like cigarettes and clings to the clothes and skin. Body odor problem - use Old Spice.




-kevin-
This too I believe to be true, since any man who is a half decent human being, or even a quarter decent, or not decent at all for that matter, will attract the attentions of women provided he has enough money and status in the community.

-tomas-
Look for the girls who have no brothers who will inherit the parents business or landed property - AND always do some serious 'sucking up' to her parents especially if they have an old grandma living with them!

i know, my daughters knew when they'd bring potential mates to 'meet the parents' they'd (the boys) have to run the gamut with dear old dad :-)

Mom is a different animal altogether and you'll have to seek advice elsewhere (on sucking up) for that karmic advice :-(

SERIOUS POINT: Remember tho, women will look at the style of shoe you like to wear... very important!

If the family is loaded ($$$) she won't care a bit about your fretting for the lack of money. Just don't dwell on it, she don't wanna hear about it!




-kevin-
Then I heard some song lyrics from a music video the other day, that went something like this:

"I ain't saying she's a gold-digger,
But she don't hang with no broke nigger."

Summed it up very well I thought.


-tomas-
Change your music genre.

Remember this, you own a house now, not all is lost. A spartan lifestyle will work for the (right) one that catches your eye.

Still playing golf? Lotsa rich girlies need golf lessons :-)

ps- don't give up, she's out there waiting.




Tomas (the tank)
Prince of Jerusalem
16 Degree
Scottish Rite Free Mason


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[Kelly Jones]

Tomas,

Didn't you accuse Kevin a year or two ago of the same dole-bludging hermit line ? To which he replied he has a job, but that having a job shouldn't be the basis of a person's worth?

If no one is in love with you, are you necessarily inferior? Perhaps to women!


Kelly

[daybrown]

These situations, with pubescent girls in particular, are really tragic. And dangerous.

I have never made much money so gold diggers have not been interested. But women who had their own economic trip together, and were only wanting more interesting company, a man who mite have something useful to say after sex, have bothered with me. And done so far more often than I ever imagined.

Young women, 21-30, now make more money than young men. The young men tend to wear black a lot these days, morning the loss of their future. But there's no help for it. The corporations know that young women wont need enuf money to support a wife at home, and thereby pay less and make more profit. Women dont need a man any more for the gold.

I went to a rave last year, and watched the young men there dance with glowing wands rather than with young women. They acted like they were still in middle school, which prolly had a lot to do with why so many young women came by to chat with me. I mentioned what I was seeing, and they verified that I was not deceived.

Pubescent girls are picking up on it as well; it takes a lot longer now for young men to mature; I have gone on at length about why, but we are where we are. If you recall, in Athens, men did not marry until 30. After they had completed a stint in the army. Dead heros didnt remain in the gene pool. (Contrary to the myth, this is what you need a man a phalanx with for it to be a really effective killing machine.)

The girls mite well understand that a more mature man can responsibly use a condom. Given the virulence and danger of STDs today, that would trump all other personal traits. Plotinus went on about how girls of 14, suddenly give up their studies, and study only how to adorn themselves. Sparta had 'coming out' parties at 13, as do the Mosou of SW China still today.

The whole reason we have the term "puberty rites" from history and anthropology, is that it happened at, of all things, puberty; not age 18. Hominid tribes have had this policy for uncounted milllennia, and it is... instinctive. So- pubescent girls begin to act in ways that they may not realize are seductive. Its been a very successful survival technique.

If a girl is precocious, I would advise her to study for the GED, and then apply to the court for "emancipation". There is no need for her to wait until age 18 to explore her sexual responses with men. Or women. This avoids the risk of litigation.

Gimbutas shows us a number of 7000 year old "Phallic Wands" from SE Europe. But I've seen porn flix, and I know dildos when I see them. Even if the dildo is only 10 cm long. You wanna think about what their girls did with a 4" dildo? Prolly not, but bear with me. There are similar reports when the Brits first went into Bengal. They found these sets of dildos in the Temples to Kali, ranging from small all the way up, or as Vatsyayana put it in the Kama Sutra, from rabbit on up to deer, and then elephant.

You dont havta read far between the lines of the British reports to see that girls entered the temple at puberty and began exercising with the dildos. And certainly, you can see that the hymen is like any other part of the epidermis, that if stretched and exposed to abrasion it will adapt. And not tear. So that women who are trained in this manner will not be demonstrably different from virgins. That, if you pardon the pun, really fucked with the minds of the Brits.

Dig it. If such a woman had sex with a man who wore a condom, she would still appear to be a virgin. No DNA. No blood. No torn tissue.

Another thing you may know about the rites to Kali today, is that the priestesses are commonly transvestite drag queens. who are also midwives, and while no one discusses it, offer 'family planning' services.

We are all running around with instincts from earlier cultures that dont really fit in what passes for modern civilization. And lets face it. Modern civilization is nuts. One bit of evidence, which I have on personal report, but also known from published reports, is where a mother protitutes her daughter in order to maintain the relationship with the stud muffin.

Have you seen the movie "Lolita"? Far from the girl being the victim, it is the man. But as women increase in political and economic power, they will step in to prevent mothers from using their daughters in this way. And use them differently, making sure that the girls learn the self control (once required of boys), to avoid attachments with individual men. Those that master this control will become the Uberwench.

[xerox]

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[Kelly Jones]

If its for sale, lm not buying. But lm not above short term rental.

This is an interesting point. I think all coupling-up is a prostitution contract, but some say there is a difference between long and short term coupling.


For instance, it bothered me that Dave Sims wrote this:

Viktor Davis explained that he had chosen the course of Sequential Temporary Voids: he had no problem with an infrequently offered candidate sitting on his knee for a while, but The Big Chair to Viktor Davis' Left Stayed Empty.

Davis' friend Neil Gaiman had a "Temporary Supplementary Void". That means he had at least two temporary voids, at the same time. That is not still sequential!

And if these couplings are sequential, there is no room for a knee to grow cold. So, the occupant of the Big Chair to One's Left has simply moved over onto one's lap.

Here's another thought. One woman is like all woman, and all women have many different faces. Therefore, short term coupling is exactly the same as The Big Chair being Occupied by one Void.


Kelly

[Tomas]

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-B.I.G.-
Notorious - A lot of people necessarily go for people (in terms of dating or relationships) for their money,

-tomas-
What the heck else is there?... when you make that first "eye contact" with some hottie that gets your heart pounding, the last thing i wouldda thought about was whether she has money. The clothes and fancy purse, shoes etc couldda been borrowed from some better-off girl-friend.

Later on, you discover she (or the parents) has $$$, it's what motivates the two to see if there is something deeper... some chick wants to buy me dinner no problem! - some fancy threads, sure, even better.

Shit, you can't take it with you so you may as well enjoy the moment :-) It don't matter to me whether she has a botox appt. every other month - obviously a mind-meld "should" take place but i may not live to see tomorrow.




-B.I.G.-
but rather the money is an attractive quality.

-tomas-

As it should be. Money can't buy me love... but the whole lot (The Beatles) sure aren't hurtin' for the lettuce. A couple (John,George) have passed the scene but their kids never have to work again :-)

Hell yeah, it makes every-thing go smoother - providing one has met their soul-mate (twin flame). Pool resources, and get it on.

When i'm on the internet, i am a real-life hermit, the door is shut and no visitors allowed! The girlfriend of 40-years doesn't bug me, the last kid in the house doesn't pound on the door with her demands. We have no pets to soil the carpeting etc.

We've both been blessed with "good stock" (genes) for parents, hers and mine were all harding-working stiffs for the almighty greenback (american dream). Of course, as we all do (and will) at different times in our pre-destined period, the body breaks down and will be shed and turn back to dust.

We've worked hard, played by the rules of the tax code, laws (treat others as you'd have them treat you) to a certain extent anyway, and hope that everything turns out all-right.

Money doesn't hurt. We simply chose to get out there and make the money instead of the welfare line (with babies in both arms).

We succeeded and now if we so choose, never have to work again for 50 lifetimes (and beyond).

Hey, you wanna live the nomadic lifestyle, live in an apartment with who knows what for neighbors, - that's cool by me.


Tomas (the tank)
Prince of Jerusalem
16 Degree
Scottish Rite Free Mason




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[Tomas]

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-passport-
Kevin Solway - Of course, if it is a high priority of a woman to have several children - and it often is - then she would be foolish to spend precious hours of her life with a man who has no financial prospects.

-tomas-
Bingo! That's what is all about. As long he brings home enough, and perhaps, she has a spare job, they'll find ways to make ends meet.

She has the educational (can-do) know-how? Well then, HE can stay with the kids till they will be able to fend for themselves. Train the children right, there will NEVER be any-thing "major" to worry about.




-passport--
While men have a tendency to overlook physically unattractive women,

-tomas-
Not always, Kevin, but i'll cede the point as it will go nowhere anyway but endless back-and-forth with no end-game in sight :-(




-passort-
a man can invest time and effort in getting to know such women,

-tomas-
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder :-|




-passport-
since he has much less to lose in this regard.

-tomas-
Yeah, i was just at the Profiles Page and "shocked" to see your shiny head. Have you considered a hair transplant from some other portions of your scalp? Does the Aussie welfare system allow for this sort of funding? Go for it!

If not, trim the beard up, and lop off some of the hair. Get a different style of glasses too. Ask a few girls what you'd do to spice it up some. Your makeover...




Tomas (the tank)
VietNam veteran - 1971

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[Tomas]

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-faizi-
MKFaizi - A smart woman who is capable of manipulating men would not fool with a broke nigger.

-tomas-
But perhaps enough to get to know his rich brother :-)




-faizi-
Personally, I was never that smart. I was always digging for intellectual gold. Generally, came up very short.

-tomas-
Can't help you out here, i've only been with one, (the same one!) for 40 plus years :-) The only annoying part about being with my only love... is that we get people asking us 'how we did it' to which there is no easy answer to give them.

We've never screamed, hollered, hit, yelled, called names... it was like an 'instant understanding' that that sort of b.s. will (would) not be tolerated. The right temperment we were both blessed with :-)




-faizi-
In my quest to understand murder, I recently read an account of a woman who was a very attractive waitress who married a very rich, lonely, kindly man for his money. He cared for her daughters, too. Nice guy.

-tomas-
He shouldda know better :-(




-faizi-
She had him killed.

-tomas-
A self-made man or inherited wealth?




-faizi-
All she had to do was to be nice to this man until he died. That's all. Just be nice to him. She had all the money in the world.

-tomas-
Nice guys finish last. Fate.




-fazi-
She couldn't even manage that.

-tomas-
"Players" generally screw up somehow.




-faizi-
Anyway, I like the Golddigger song. Great video. Lots of women dressed up like clowns. Not like real clowns but clowns nevertheless. The grimace on one overly made up girl's face is priceless when the song says, "Then, leave you for a white girl."

-tomas-
Change your music genre.




-faizi-
But men never learn. Such suckers. Faizi

-tomas-
Agree mostly. "Most" men do not.



Tomas (the tank)
VietNam veteran - 1971

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[Tomas]

. . . any man who is a half decent human being, or even a quarter decent, or not decent at all for that matter, will attract the attentions of women provided he has enough money and status in the community.

I wonder if Siddarta kept getting offers.


One of my next door neighbour's is a young girl, about 11 or 12 years old. She's now in the very early stages of puberty, and she's begun trying to woo me. I was going to say she's practising, but that's not really the case, i do think it's for real. In this day-and-age she has a relatively small world, and i'm right next door, and own 1.2 acres, which i'm slowly developing. For this and other reasons i would appear a good prospect for her, despite being about 17 or 18 years older. She's even asked me my age, and was pleasantly surprised when i said 30. Quite pleasantly surprised in fact, she stumbled to hide her delight. She thought i was older.

On top of that, she has inspected my premises, and prompted me to discard a well-used fly-strip, and helped me to do it. She has asked me if i am lonely, 'what do i do in the evenings by myself?'. She cannot imagine solitariness being desirable, and through these subtle questions painted it in a negative light. Make him unpleasant without her.

Her mother is a well-versed partly-masculine buddhist, and she is definitely playing a role in this. She has already said that her daughter will grow tall and she'll need a tall male . . . like me. How about me? She clings strongly to motherhood, she would love to bring the downfall of a buddha, regardless of her buddhist attachments.


At the earliest onset of puberty, the young girl begins practising the art of wooing in earnest. She is by no means a stranger to this black art, but the time has come, it's purpose has become clear. She will find the nearest man that fits her loose and flexible requirements - he will not be far otherwise he would be outside her world, and mould herself to his needs. And then him to her needs.


Wooing is like mooing. 'She' will stand there or adopt a posture and essentially disappear, allowing the male to project all that he will.

Wow. There was this girl (employee) who was 18-y-o last year and she hadn't realized that i was/am the boss (owner) of the business. She did a lot of that sort of behaviorisms when i was at the cafeteria as i eat with everybody else (i grew up a commoner) and she was eventually told 'who i am' (pecking order) and she "quit" the same day... well, she was an efficient employee and she was asked by her supervisor to stay on... she now has a boyfriend (from the company) and is doing well and going to university part-time to further her dreams...

As luck would have it, she is dating some guy who really digs her, a double-dose of white light :-)

ps- good story, Rhett



Tomas (the tank)
Prince of Jerusalem
16 Degree
Scottish Rite Free Mason



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[DHodges]

One thing I can't stand is these bitches
trying to take my riches
when I ain't even got none
- Shaggy 2 Dope / ICP "Bitches"