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by Bobo
Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:37 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment?
Replies: 149
Views: 108466

Re: An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment?

Weininger answers from beyond the grave: The fixed stars signify the angel in man. That is why man orients himself by them and that is why women have no appreciation for the starry sky; because they have no sense of the angel in man. ( On last things ) The fixed stars are just the names and books i...
by Bobo
Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:42 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: The simple arithmetic of eternal life
Replies: 25
Views: 17656

Re: The simple arithmetic of eternal life

Also, even if something couldn't be subtracted/added from/to everything that doesn't mean that subtraction/addition can't function elsewhere.
by Bobo
Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:24 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Spirituality and Logic
Replies: 73
Views: 43294

Re: Spirituality and Logic

The reason I said the "infinite" was not an entity or quality would be rooted in the idea that we're speaking about the totality without any division. You said that the infinite is without division, and that the active counterpart of it lies in seeing it as two infinites, one left and one...
by Bobo
Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:12 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Spirituality and Logic
Replies: 73
Views: 43294

Re: Spirituality and Logic

It doesn't take much to see logic has almost zero place in modern religion. It is constantly preached that "human logic" is far too limited to understand the world and reality. Thus it is said that we must rely on the invisible God of [insert local church], with blind faith. Spirituality ...
by Bobo
Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:03 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment?
Replies: 149
Views: 108466

Re: An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment?

It's impossible to see "things beyond their meanings". This is because the meaning contains all the connections to it you are experiencing-- being sensory or logical connections. Then words or actions beyond their meaning or are you saying that it means what it means? The following dynami...
by Bobo
Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:17 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Spirituality and Logic
Replies: 73
Views: 43294

Re: Spirituality and Logic

Perhaps this "fact" that you know about philosophy is flat out wrong? How exactly would you describe organized thought? You're done in 'abstract', the very existence of abstract things is denied relevance in some systems of philosophy, it is a (quite huge, depending on what you mean by ab...
by Bobo
Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:00 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Spirituality and Logic
Replies: 73
Views: 43294

Re: Spirituality and Logic

As science is a subcategory of philosophy Like in natural philosophy? philosophy is purely abstract logic I'm sorry, this is factually incorrect. scientific proof can only occur within the realms of science. I think you are choosing to use the word science way more restrictively then it is commonly...
by Bobo
Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:10 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Spirituality and Logic
Replies: 73
Views: 43294

Re: Spirituality and Logic

There's causality, meaning that every time we single out a "cause", we just keep having causality. No need to write recursively, it's a principle I will change the concepts for a while to try to make it more clear where your fault is. Instead of cause and effect let's say that things begi...
by Bobo
Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:33 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Spirituality and Logic
Replies: 73
Views: 43294

Re: Spirituality and Logic

Of what use could metaphysics possibly have if it had no such basis? Indeed, I think scientism is a bankrupt form of philosophy as it doesn't account to some forms of knowledge (and broadly speaking 'science' just means knowledge), that doesn't save metaphysics out of the possibility of being witho...
by Bobo
Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:37 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment?
Replies: 149
Views: 108466

Re: An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment?

If language is taken to be everywhere one may hear things when no one is there and see things beyond their meanings. Case 6 The Buddha Holds Out a Flower                        六 世尊拈花   世尊、昔、在靈山會上拈花示衆。 When Shakyamuni Buddha was at Mount Grdhrakuta, he held out a flower to his listeners. 是時、衆皆默然。 Ev...
by Bobo
Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:59 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment?
Replies: 149
Views: 108466

Re: An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment?

Maybe communication is a better word to describe the exchanges than language here, in the case of self-consciousness it would appear to be an agent doing and another receiving where possibly there's none. Alternatively anything that can be passed down by words are the lowest forms of consciousness, ...
by Bobo
Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:49 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment?
Replies: 149
Views: 108466

Re: An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment?

As the tao undo its own doing, you should be able to answer your own questions. Sorry Bobo I have no idea what you are talking about. I thought I was paraphrasing tao the ching in 'the tao undo its on doing' and the next phrase is what I think it would mean in terms of dialectics for the sage. More...
by Bobo
Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:53 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Spirituality and Logic
Replies: 73
Views: 43294

Re: Spirituality and Logic

But we're not talking about a process where "errors" and "mistakes" would have any meaning yet, so it's really not with or without any. Perhaps that's the only way for something to be perfect, as basically unformed? Even the idea of "error" will remain relative to a de...
by Bobo
Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:23 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Spirituality and Logic
Replies: 73
Views: 43294

Re: Spirituality and Logic

Correctness implies that something can be compared or verified against something else to ascertain the correctness of it. In logic someone may verify that something follows logically from an axiom, and changing the axioms verify opposite.
by Bobo
Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:07 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment?
Replies: 149
Views: 108466

Re: An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment?

Following from what you said about words being pointers, absolutes in language tend to override this view.
by Bobo
Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:58 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Spirituality and Logic
Replies: 73
Views: 43294

Re: Spirituality and Logic

You wrote purely logical I interpreted it to mean without content. Usually you can have various logical formalizations for the same phenomena where you cannot use only logic to determine the 'correct' one.
by Bobo
Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:25 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment?
Replies: 149
Views: 108466

Re: An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment?

No its not, its about how to live in this world without the fears and greed that generally controls human behaviour As the tao undo its own doing, you should be able to answer your own questions. So we bounce from thought to thought never really knowing what is right and is part of the reason why r...
by Bobo
Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:49 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment?
Replies: 149
Views: 108466

Re: An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment?

I mean something like one doesn't need opposition to get the contraposition to one's position. My thinking then would be that if Lao-tsu had written more in terms of a position and the opposite things could be more clear, and here I mean the form of the text because taoism is pretty much about yin y...
by Bobo
Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:03 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment?
Replies: 149
Views: 108466

Re: An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment?

Well, actually, to be in the feminine mind traditionally means to be in the dark to the fact that words are just pointers to mirages. "In truth" implies knowledge of this fact. Traditionally words are taken to be pointers to mirages? Anyway, that's probably why absolutes tend to be femini...
by Bobo
Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:25 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Spirituality and Logic
Replies: 73
Views: 43294

Re: Spirituality and Logic

I disagree that in doing science scientists have to ignore the hypothetical nature of their doing, one of the strongest points of science lies in it not dealing with absolutes. Contrary to what you said physics itself is a highly speculative science in which the theory should be evidenciable. I thin...
by Bobo
Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:48 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Spirituality and Logic
Replies: 73
Views: 43294

Re: Spirituality and Logic

It's not simply that the details are finer than we can perceive in any given moment, it's also that we cannot know anything with 100% certainty about the details of what has been sensed. - "Oneness" is really just one of many conceptual metaphors to describe the state of reality in the mo...
by Bobo
Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:14 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Spirituality and Logic
Replies: 73
Views: 43294

Re: Spirituality and Logic

The reason for this lies in any "A" being illusive, like any "not A". Two illusions don't make a disillusion, let alone any "reality". Are you saying that logic cannot capture reality? The verb capturing could imply something outside or bigger than that reality. Logic ...
by Bobo
Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:53 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Spirituality and Logic
Replies: 73
Views: 43294

Re: Spirituality and Logic

It doesn't follow from the fact that things are finer than our senses that our sensations are illusory, a bigger jump yet lies in going from there to some kind of oneness. Anyway these are not the objects of logic that logic deals with, logic deals with the formation of simple propositions and the s...
by Bobo
Sun Jul 12, 2015 4:15 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Spirituality and Logic
Replies: 73
Views: 43294

Re: Spirituality and Logic

The reason for this lies in any "A" being illusive, like any "not A". Two illusions don't make a disillusion, let alone any "reality". It just adds to the illusion I suppose :) Are you saying that logic cannot capture reality? For this reason it could become clear that...
by Bobo
Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:53 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Spirituality and Logic
Replies: 73
Views: 43294

Re: Spirituality and Logic

You wrote earlier that 'perceiving the eternal nature of all things is strictly logical in practice', I am struggling to see the logic in it. I am assuming that you meant something as 'perceiving that all that is not eternal is eternal', I assume that one can perceive the lack of logic in this state...