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.....indeed the 'Holy Spirit' is a real thing, a real force or power and source of intelligence. And in order to tune in and flow with that holy spirit one must have a purified mind, which is a natural mind. A mind that has managed to free itself of all its societally acquired and deeply conditione...

3 weeks before he died Jung was interviewed on radio. He advised 'do Zen'. In a letter written at the end of his life to Michael Fordham, Carl Jung wrote that nobody understood him and his work had been a failure. His mission in life was to preserve peace by presenting the world with a new combinat...

The radical shift fully experienced from my experience is transitory in nature. Even tho' one is radically altered one is not in the fullness of the experience for much of the time. The actual experience is generated by practicing on a daily basis the steps 4-9. Is going into the abyss for you mean...

I think it is important to say (having done a little bit of looking into the question) that the AA program is a direct expression of Christian spiritualism, and by that I mean the notion of 'the Holy Spirit' as a sort of incomprehensible spiritual presence, something that acts on persons and in the...

Bob, is arational and aperspective consciousness the same as spiritual consciousness? Yes m/a, there are many names one could give to it, but unless one experiences being in such a state and then comes to better and better understand it and himself these names will have little, if any real meaning....

Thanks for that Bob. Good work. I'm not clear on these distinctions you use: the universal mental-rational structure or state of consciousness, as was the case with myself. result of them having an arational-aperspectival structure of consciousness while having The 12 steps is a rational response t...

Absolutely there is nothing wrong Bob. Conventionally there is ignorance and suffering. Being a long time member of Alanon and understanding the alcoholic to some extent. I, without casting aspersion on you, dare to assert your alienation from your sons is caused by the massive damage the alcoholis...

By saying that Bob aren't you yourself conceptually designating. locked into a mental-rational structure of consciousness. You are condemning a person for holding a fish with the holding of a fish yourself. Completely illogical. Sadly and regrettably I can clearly see that my 3 sons, ages (about) 4...

I suggest that this is the only way to get around that hard, resistant structure. True, it will likely only work in 15%-20% of the cases who come through here. I suggest the figure is closer to 2 to 5%. And there's no guarantee that it will 'work' in them either. Since, due to an inherent flaw in t...

Whatshappening wrote:Thanks and by all means you can ask. Today I'm in the world of the flu...I'd love to explore your comments...once I'm feeling better. Feeling, Gary

Wishing you a speedy recovery, Gary, while eagerly, but patiently, awaiting your return.

Bob M.

"The World of the Spirit." What's that about? In the simplest terms possible...please Here's my best shot at describing the 'World of the Spirit' for now, Gary. It's also a good exercise for myself for the present moment. Thanks for asking, as it helps in my own ongoing spiritual developm...

Thanks Bob for sharing your mindset. I'm the straight up type, being in construction will do that to a person. I've had to learn, some, the hard way. I call it learning by fire, not the most preferred methodology. It involves way to much talking (yelling). Anyways I've learnt to rely on simple fund...

So now I want to get to know this reality thing. I want to get to know it so I can understand what's going on. Hence my first question, how many realities exist? Hi Gary, From my own personal life experiences, which has included much suffering and change both inward and outward, I've come to find t...

Many times the Captain wished he laid, cold and dead upon the deck; But that no longer is the case, the pirates are finally all in check; So his sails are fully raised, skies are clear, it's full speed ahead; Much hell the Captain shall also raise, before he finally lies cold and dead (upon the dec...

I am really interested in this question of 'reaching', and every forum I have participated has been a kind of training and experiment ground. If you are to ever breakthrough your conditioned self and truly and fully 'reach', Alex (given that you are built for such a rare event - and I think you jus...

Yet there are people here who cannot and will not examine themselves ironically. I'd suggest that most people everywhere cannot or will not examine themselves at all. But you fail to understand why this is while participating herein in an insincere and frivolous (excessively humorous and overly iro...

I find that the circumstances or conditions of a child's parenting and upbringing mean virtually nothing, and especially in these last days. Even with the very best of M/F parenting and environmental setting the near-totally demented societies and living conditions that fallen and depraved man has d...

Alex Jacob wrote:I am genuinely sorry that you are distressed. But as Ghandi said, 'Be the change you wish to see in the world.'

But most people are not built for real, revolutionary change. And those who are and do so still stay stuck in some of the same old ruts like Ghandi did.

Ah, action. How's that Ark coming along...? Well CB, I think I've finally gotten my head completely out of my ass. As a result I feel quite optimistic and enthusiatic that the adventure will be successful. I too have 3 potential shipmates, that is if they are willing to fully detach themselves from...

Bob, you're discussing things! ; ) Perhaps I am Sue, though I'm doing so from a vantage point of being high above all these things that are being discussed. So high above them that I clearly see the total vanity of these kinds of discussions. I find, after many years of participating in many variou...

Below is a quote by Kierkegaard. In contrast, this quote describes how anger is a protective measure to ensure the preservation of the self: The natural man can tolerate spirit for an hour when it is introduced very guardedly at the distance of the imagination - yes, then it even pleases him. But i...

The use of quotes to restate your ideas in a different form is fine. It would be helpful if you first state your point. My point (idea) was made in the thread title "On the 'Blessedness' of Anger", Sue. That is "Magnificent Anger". Without which a person is as good as dead. And ...

Great quotes, Bob. My pleasure uncle. Here's another one: "Why do you think anger is wrong? Because somebody has told you? Now why do you get angry? Because you don't want to be hurt - which is the normal human demand for survival. You feel that you should not be used, crushed, destroyed or ex...

Well, Bob does say that he is a twice born, and puts importance on one's having a lot of experience under the belt. Yes, true or living wisdom springs from experience alone, Bobo. The INFINITE seeks not philosophers, poets, intellectuals, book-learned men of wisdom, metaphysical sharks, geniuses, t...

Maybe Bob is saying something about understanding the self, and if he was to add comment to his use of quotes, we might get to know what that 'something' is exactly. I shall sit content to let those quotes speak for themselves, Sue. Attempts to further explain, analyse, or comment on them only tend...