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No, I mean that with each and every instance of suffering you are able to show me, I'll show you the human , the homo dukkha involved. He's defined by his suffering. And of course I'm not talking about pain as such. This is about philosophy, not medicine. Oh dear. So, when animals suffer, they are ...

John, how about I point out your self-centred intellectual vacuity? Pye has you pegged: you would be a totally different animal without the privileges afforded to you by the Australian government: an effectively free education and free income support. And you don't even recognise your hypocrisy: tha...

Show me the suffering and I'll show you the human. But that's an irrelevancy, Diebert; it's beside the point. No one (least of all me) is arguing that humans don't suffer, or even that there is a single human in whom suffering is not present (perhaps there is, or perhaps there isn't, I really don't...

No, only humans suffer in the way suffering here is understood. They rise and waste away with it. Homo Dukkha. Then either your understanding of animals is warped, or the way suffering is understood here is warped, or, most likely, both. Show me the suffering and I'll show you the human. But that's...

No, only humans suffer in the way suffering here is understood. Then either your understanding of animals is warped, or the way suffering is understood here is warped, or, most likely, both. Pam, I don't know how much to believe of Buddhist scriptures with respect to the potential for (human) enlig...

Just wanted to drop in a brief word in support of Kunga as antidote to jupiviv and John's callous attitudes - *of course* animals suffer, and *of course* we should care about that suffering - and in support of Pam for bringing up this very relevant subject in the first place. Pam, I don't know wheth...

Just to be clear, Orenholt, is what you're saying: the video clip is sexist, and the women participating in it, as consenting adults, are equally as culpable for the sexist message as the men? If so, I agree. I wonder though whether the sexism bothers you as much as the feminist reaction to the vide...

Hello Orenholt, I'm not so sure that "most good deeds per person" helps: all this does effectively is to divide the aggregate (and the "good deeds" aggregate is at least correlated with the "happiness" aggregate in that the point of good deeds is to create happiness, at...

Hello Orenholt, Good topic, morality is not discussed nearly enough on this forum IMO. Disclaimer: I haven't studied moral theories in any depth, and it's completely possible that the criticism I make doesn't apply to any utilitarian theory as actually advocated by moral philosophers. In any case, h...

Deebs, I hope you're well. I've just come back from an amazing light show on the Brisbane river, which I shared with my wonderful aunt and beautiful sister. Good times. And now, I will do my best to offer a "light show" for your post. :-) I'd be interested to know in which sense you intend...

Yes, it could be said of everyone therefore it was interesting to highlight you stressing that members here "are amongst the most pointlessly argumentative I have come across" and that they are "appearing to consistently contradict others just for the sake of it". Why even let n...

And you are deeply attracted to this place filled with rigidness and doctrine so you can challenge it intellectually just for the sake of it? Know thyself first and foremost! Deebs, good to hear from you again. Re knowing myself, wasn't it me who provided you with the above analysis in the first pl...

Hi again, I just wanted to step back into this thread briefly to comment on the problem of misrepresentation , a common problem on this forum, and even in this thread, as I've pointed out a couple of times already re Russell's and David's "creative interpretations" of my meaning/attitude. ...

Hi all, This is a summing up and concluding post, as I don't seem to have the energy or motivation for these extended discussions/debates right now, and because I suspect that in some ways they're not particularly productive. To Diebert: personally, I don't see any problem with posting to multiple f...

guest_of_logic: I don't believe you. Please link to these supposed admissions. Surely you can't be referring to his Talking Ass account, which was anything but "hidden", and which is singular not "multiple". Diebert: Well I didn't mention "hidden accounts" But earlier ...

And in terms of Laird completely misinterpreting Jesus, how does he explain this well-known quotes: "The kingdom of God is within you" Dude, my interpretation of Jesus is the most reasonable one; yours is the contortion. You don't even believe in a personal God, which is the cornerstone o...

You mean the same Jesus who said things like, “It will not come by waiting for it. It will not be a matter of saying, 'Here it is', or 'There it is'. Rather, the Kingdom of the Father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it"..... It’s interesting to note that Jesus deliberately con...

He admitted to it himself on this very forum and elsewhere publicly. I don't believe you. Please link to these supposed admissions. Surely you can't be referring to his Talking Ass account, which was anything but "hidden", and which is singular not "multiple". guest_of_logic: Da...

Well, seemingly against my better judgement, here's another response amidst this "ruckus". I don't promise to keep on responding, so this might be my last, potentially excluding some sort of summing up or sign-off post. guest_of_logic: Ah, loopy jupi, all you do is prompt the obvious quest...

guest_of_logic: What I continue to think, Leyla, is that the phrase is empty sophistry. To be alive itself is to "engage in life". No matter what attitude, approach or behaviour we adopt, whether it be emotional or "non-attached", deluded or "enlightened", that is simp...

Kelly, I still don't see any value in communicating with you on this forum, sorry. I think our differences, including personal, are irreconcilable, and communicating is counter-productive.

Russell, I think it's fine to say, "This is the best of my current understanding", which is pretty much what I do in this analysis, but to go from there to, "I am without doubt, and it is absolutely true that I am, [correct/enlightened/whatever]", is a leap that none of us are ju...

Jupiviv: Robert based his understanding of enlightenment on its description in the scriptures, which, aside from consulting the living members of an enlightenment tradition, is the only way we can really know what it is. It's not rational to base one's understanding of enlightenment on scriptures o...

What I continue to think, Leyla, is that the phrase is empty sophistry. To be alive itself is to "engage in life". No matter what attitude, approach or behaviour we adopt, whether it be emotional or "non-attached", deluded or "enlightened", that is simply how we are &qu...

And your usual calling card is repetition, Mr Mahar. Repetitive motion that pleases you... what do you think, Leyla? Don't stress, Dennis, I'm just teasing.