GENIUS FORUMS

The little we know of Socrates - thanks to Plato - does not support what you are saying. He said, like Plato, that ultimate reality cannot be known, that it was not, to use the cliche, the destination that mattered, but the journey. He , like Plato, believed that it was impossible for us to know THE...

That's his second award! He got his first one on Plato's forum!
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Ok, then tell me what he didn't understand, and where you attained THAT knowledge? Did you know Socrates personally? Have you discovered the missing book?

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Socrates occupies a foundational place in the HISTORY OF IDEAS but actually wrote NOTHING. Most of our knowledge of him comes from, guess where? THE WORKS OF PLATO! e.g Plato's account of Socrates's defense at his trial in 399 BC. In it, Plato outlines some of Socrates's most famous philosophical id...

Ryan: your a fucking ignoramus! You don't even have an imagination...
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enlightenment = nihilism.
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Its odd how many people in here throw the word enlightenment around...it seems to be the flavour of the month. In terms of 'origins' it had its beginnings in the East - not the West - thousands of years before Christ, Socrates or Buddha were ever born or invented. It has been mostly 'ignored' by ser...

Ryan, if it wasn't for Plato, we wouldn't even know who Socrates was, let alone what he taught, because ALL his teachings come to us THROUGH Plato. There are a lot of people in here who toss words like 'enlightenment' around like confetti, but I very much doubt they know what it means. Please, enlig...

Iolaus, all power to you for at least thinking about things...let me ask you a few questions. At what point in time, evolution aside, did the first species begin? Who or what were these first species? Where on earth did they come from? What did they look like? I could go on, but I think you have eno...

A list of black inferiors: Benjamin Banneker (1731-1806)- Born into a family of free blacks in Maryland, Banneker learned the rudiments of reading, writing, and arithmetic from his grandmother and a Quaker schoolmaster. Later he taught himself advanced mathematics and astronomy. He is best known for...

Ha! Ha! precisely...

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The limitations of language ( esp. words ) is also something Plato deals with - something of which he is painfully familiar throughout the whole of his philosophical writings. There is, he believes, a 'gradation' of imagery promped by language that alludes to something 'beyond itself'. Images used t...

Kaidara...good points....I'm one white fella who agrees...

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Dogs (Canis familiaris), wolves (Canis lupus & rufus), and coyotes (Canis latrans) are considered separate species and yet they can interbreed. And their offspring are not infertile. Species are really constructions of the human mind, just like language and other systems of thought, that allow u...

hsandman - woooow! Well said.
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You make some interesting points. But what you should consider, from the Platonic point of view, is the function of language itself and its relation to what you believe and experience. I don't think you have a clear notion of what Plato means when he talks about the Forms so I will try and clarify t...

DQ at last we agree on something!

Don't worry Iolaus, armegeddon's on time...I'm sure you'll be among the 'choosen' to ascend into heaven, where all your questions will be answered, and all us evolutionists and atheists will burn in hell forever!!


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DQ how ignorant you are. What a presumptious little pup. The tragedy is not so much that you don't know - but you don't want to know (ignorance)...Like so many 'small minds' you have an aggenda and you run with it, and anything that doesn't fit, you cast aside. It does nothing for your credibility.....

Alternative theories: One day the universe went pop and here we all are... Or one day god said let there be life and there was... Or one day, a star exploded and we all crawled out of the primal soup perfectly formed - forever the same! Or one day aliens landed on earth and left a bunch of people be...

Mel...you have an annoying habit of habitually applying the particular to the general. Don't ask me, find out for yourself. Take some responsibility for what flows through your pen, perhaps then, the quality of your observations and conclusions would be worth considering...

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We all want to understand what is going on in the world around us. We want sensible explanations that make the world intelligible and help us find our place in it. Unfortunately, our powers of reason are LIMITED such that an explanation isn't always possible - but that doesn't stop us from trying. A...

Gore didn't take a dive, the vote was rigged by Bush and his gangsters: his dad, his cousin, judges, christian right, powerful media groups ( affluent whites and zionists ) . Some solid evidence is supplied by Michael Moore ( a horrible liberal! ) in his movie FH/9/11. Do you need an Australian to t...

Yeah right, and its true: George Bush really does have a phd in philosophy...or in his own words: 'It will take some time to restore chaos...'

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Inferior? The word itself is open to interpretation. I mean didn't the 'superior' white race vote Bush into office? Not a very smart move...And thanks to the white race, the world has been brought to the edge of extinction because of climate change, which, I suspect, most people in here, like evolut...

' When you come to the edge of a cliff and jump off, just 'believing' you can fly won't help - or will it?

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