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It is obviously hypocritical to "chicken out" on the killing but still eat the meat. Mikiel, what is your point? Should society have as a rite of passage a requirement that every person must at some time kill a pig if he has ever eaten bacon? So everyone at the banquet who has not beheade...

So to elaborate on your OP, the "bubble" of cosmos is finite but expanding outward into the infinity of space. There may be other "bubbles doing the same. Ok, but what if there is one ultimate bubble, the biggest of all bubbles. And what if this bubble is not expanding, but is simply...

Mikiel, why in the world are you trying so damn hard? Who are you trying to prove your Enlightenment to, others or yourself? My participation on this forum feels to me like an effortless flow of words testifying to the Truth as I know it. Your assumptions to the contrary are your own projections, c...

g-o-l, You are splitting hairs over my use of the word hypocrite. I'm guessing that if you polled 100 people, 98 of them would agree that to eat meat when you will not kill the animal is hypocricy. The other two would be you and broke, for reasons I do not understand. You say,"Hypocrisy is prea...

From my last entry in the "Cosmology and Kosmos" thread: I agree with your description of what "isotropic" means. If I remember correctly, I was agreeing with Broke that the cosmos looks relatively the same over long distances in all directions, i.e., "smooth" rather th...

Jehu, I do not wish to be a stickler, but Mikel’s present lies firmly within the field of time,... You totally misunderstand my usage of "the ongoing (perpetual, eternal) present. Now is *not a very small span of time.* There is *no time* between past and future. Time is indeed merely the human...

Broke: No problem. Really. I see it more as "Don't kill it unless it will get eaten." Or used to make clothes, etc. Or to thin out the herd, as in my post above. You are still missing my point. It is not about everyone being required to kill their own animals for meat. It is patently obvio...

Broke: This cannot/will not kill an animal being equated to vegetarianism or hypocrisy is the kind of crap I avoid like the plague. It sounds like some hypothetical pissing contest. Man, you are really spinning your wheels on this one. It's really quite obvious. If you can't/won't kill it, then don'...

Mik, your brand of enlightenment sure is confrontational. What's all this claptrap about "relative reality" and such? Don't you know that reality is just reality? The ordinary infinite? The everyday absolute? Language-games don't substitute for experience. I think your floopy realization ...

Buddy, you haven't experienced one second of consciousness. When you have, believe me you will know. Hear Ye all forum readers: For the truth about what mikiel has and has not actually experienced, please consult prince. He has the real scoop. Perhaps he will do us the honor of re-writing my "...

What you fail to understand is that I have experienced nearly four decades of being conscious, in meditation, without being conscious "of something"... I don't doubt that for a second. Hilarious! What's really funny is the image of you with your foot in your mouth. You are totally clueles...

Elizabeth: I don't expect he meant to just kill it just to kill it. I expect he meant to at least kill one cow if you want to eat beef (and eat or share that cow), one chicken if you want to eat chicken, then eat that bird, etc. but not have to kill your every meal. Anyway, that's what I expect he m...

consciousness can and does exist independently of its content, the concepts, perceptions... "objects" which arise into consciousness. What you're saying is that one can be conscious, but not actually be conscious of anything. What you fail to understand is that if one is not conscious of ...

Bottom line: If you can not (will not) kill the animals you eat, you are obviously a hypocrite. I mean this in the philosophical sense, not as a practical matter that everyone must actually kill every animal they eat. This whole thread has danced around this issue without meeting it head on. Loki: W...

So the Buddha was a computer or a bio-robot? Or, alternatively, he was lying to the audience? Maybe, if you were a little less floopy and a little more seriouly ingaged in pursuit of Truth you would realize that "ultimate reality" is unified and relative reality, as it manifests is polari...

Jehu: From the perspective of the absolute there is no time, for there is no change. Being, which is the only true entity, does not abide within the fields of time or space, and so we cannot rightfully say that it has either a shape or a duration. Neither can we say that it is big or small, for this...

mansman: Hi Mikiel, i have a little trouble following your words, meaning. May I ask, Are you saying that here on the forum some person David "tried you in a mock trail" not sure what that means, can you point to the thread where this happen, thank you. David Quinn Also, what is our "...

For anyone here actually interested in "understanding God", here are some quotes from my teacher, Joel Morwood from the link above. (I often skip links, so this is just for those of you like me.) If his words spark your interest, go to the link and read the quotes from enlightened ones fro...

Not very enlightened of you, enlightened one. Weren't you just spouting guru-speak 5 minutes ago? My floopy disk tales are "bullshit" but your hypocritical statements about enlightenment are not? You, sir, may bite the business end of a metallic floopy disk protective sleeve. How, exactly...

I got enlightened while attempting to fasten an extremely tiny screw into a floopy disk drive. The universe opened up to me and I briefly became one with all things, before extending the screwdriver a bit too far and rather severely electrocuting myself. I ended up having to replace the whole drive...

"Unity can only be manifested by the Binary. Unity itself and the idea of Unity are already two." -The Buddha. I have a collection of such quotes on a floopy disk. I keep it handy for these occasions. True if you are a computer or a bio-robot. Not true if you are an awakened one who knows...

"What isn't egotism?" Selflessness... the functional definition of enlightenment. Self as "separate identity" is an illusion. Ego is our programing for practical function in the World... socially, etc. Mistaking it for "my identity" (as all egocentrics do) is the unmist...

Since this thread has been resurrected... The historical Jesus question aside, Anyone who can say with the absolute certainty of gnosis, "I and the Creator are One" is indeed enlightened. This is why David tried me in a mock trial and then crucified me for claiming (which I did not) "...

Nick Treklis wrote: Carl G wrote: Just curious, why cannot the Totality not be conscious of itself? I have posed this to Kevin on a couple of occasions and have never gotten an answer. Because for something to be conscious in any meaningful sense, it must in fact be conscious of something. Which me...

Jehu, What I was going on about was gnosis that Cosmos is One conscious Being denoted by the word "Kosmos." Your denial of the above is based on a purely anthropomorphic definition of sentience without benefit of mystic Knowing by direct identification that "I Am" is the same Ide...