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by Pye
Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:22 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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Re: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap

Seeker writes: I agree suffering is in 'need of attendance', being rightly aware of it and what causes it presents the possibility of cutting it off, no longer ignorantly setting coals alight, and then continuing on to walk over them. Yet to go out and 'help' is to make-up a purpose. Exactly right....
by Pye
Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:07 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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Re: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap

Diebert: . . . in its wake all the dread, boredom, alienation, absurdity and nothingness associated with existentialist but necessary skulduggery. But we could do that, that's where Camus goes, that where Kierkegaard was when he interpreted the garden of eden situation not as guilt, but as dread (o...
by Pye
Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:12 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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Re: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap

Diebert writes: But so far everyone but Seeker has danced around the problem of "consciousness landing" with in its wake all the dread, boredom, alienation, absurdity and nothingness associated with existentialist but necessary skulduggery . Make sure these descriptors match what it is be...
by Pye
Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:34 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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Re: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap

The question is, do you make efforts to intervene in such situations? How does that fit in with your 'nothings wrong or out of place' motto? interjecting, Seeker, but isn't the grasp of a world not-wrong in itself thus 'sanctioning' so to speak the presence of things in need of attendance within it...
by Pye
Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:39 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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Re: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap

For myself, I've never heard any of the wise say they were perfect in the practice of their lives/thoughts (this is not about the-addressing of suffering itself - that is every sentient being's thing to do); or say they had a 'final arrival.' All I know have been generous about their remaining imper...
by Pye
Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:17 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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Re: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap

. . . not every reply is argumentative; not every question, a 'retort' . . . .

(ain't that right, Seeker . . .)
by Pye
Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:55 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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Re: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap

Cahoot: Re-examine your premise.
It is the premises of buddhist thought you're helping me with, Cahoot.
Thanks for the notation of overlap.
by Pye
Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:37 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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Cahoot: Cause and effect finish. No more becoming. End of suffering. Tell me how this might happen whilst still in existence (being). Otherwise, we are still bracketing, as existentialists do, within our personal births and our personal deaths. Of course, will mighty-suffering end there . . . . Arr...
by Pye
Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:21 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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movingalways: As does wisdom understand that being born/suffering comes to an end. One could say existentialism understands this very much as well. But it does not come to an end whilst still in existence. Neither is this an excuse for doing nothing about it. It (a person-suffering) comes to an end...
by Pye
Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:05 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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Re: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap

movingalways: Belief that consciousness becomes anything other than what it is is the delusion perpetuated by the mind that is enchanted with the false idea of past, present and future. So with no enchantment for past, present, and future, one could say they have 'arrested' being(/becoming) into a ...
by Pye
Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:00 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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movingalways: It's motto: at least when you suffer you know you are alive (born).
Is this something you/wisdom sees as in error, this 'being alive'? - this 'being born'?
by Pye
Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:53 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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Re: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap

(movingalways, can you please answer the relative pronoun confusion? thanks.)
by Pye
Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:50 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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jupiviv: The whole of cause and effect is not a being.
Not "a" being, as in a noun-thing, but "being' as in a verb-action. Causing-and-effecting.
by Pye
Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:41 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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Seeker posits: There are many you would hear making a distinction between a 'false self' and 'true self', the latter being the 'eternal, formless' aspect of our being. That which isn't subject to birth and death. What that exists is not subject to its "birth" and its "death"? Ju...
by Pye
Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:28 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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Re: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap

jupiviv: There is no need for "others", as in "other selves". Any self is identified in contrast to all the things that are not it, and ultimately grounded in all things. How do 'other selves' escape being part of all-things? Rather, how are other selves entirely subordinated to...
by Pye
Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:02 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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Re: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap

movingalways: Mind-consciousness fears entering the depth of their suffering to the five aggregates because it is the house of suffering. It's motto: at least when you suffer you know you are alive (born). Which "it" does the relative pronoun attached to the "motto" refer to: Mi...
by Pye
Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:40 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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Re: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap

Seeker, if there's one thing I 'know' about Leyla from her time here, it is that she is not in flight from existence. We will all go about it in some way or another, parry and dodge, this and that, but she is definitely not in flight-from it.
by Pye
Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:26 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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Re: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap

So, buddhist adepts, reply if you might to any overlap you see in sticky wicket #1: Existentialism - in spite of its recognition of dependent origination - cannot and does not refute the reality of a self. In this concretion of existence, the self is actually the one-and-only irrefutable and immedia...
by Pye
Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:41 pm
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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Re: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap

Cahoot, Being - ta for the nuances [and the goodwill greetings]. I ruminate them . . . . Nietzsche said somewhere once, and more-or-less, that it is easy to spot 'difference' in things, but a far greater achievement to locate their samenesses. Indeed the overlap is what interests me, so I'm postponi...
by Pye
Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:58 am
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Topic: If you were about to die....
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Re: If you were about to die....

unfold away, Dan . . . .
by Pye
Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:00 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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Re: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap

And Pye that sounds like a deflection or attack rather than an answer to a question that is only relevant to each individual. Which was, is the maintaining of debt, obligation, and social appearances causing continuous suffering? Not when the overarching condition reached is one not-of suffering, b...
by Pye
Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:44 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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Re: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap

Thanks, Elizabeth. Even PTSD is having to answer to conditions . . . . [and let me add] still having-to-make choices about how to navigate it. Diebert (and correct me if I'm wrong, but) don't you make your living feeding off of academia ? So comfortable , you two, in your all-knowingness, your eithe...
by Pye
Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:17 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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Re: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap

Okay, well we're derailed anyway, but to this point . . . . As far as I understand Elizabeth and her husband (and you correct me if I'm wrong), your lives have been arranged by yourselves to answer to certain values you seek to uphold (just as mine has, by the way); to answer to certain conditions i...
by Pye
Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:54 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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Re: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap

Seeker writes: Why :\ Afraid of starving or getting too cold perhaps? Isn't that really all that can go wrong from not having 'security'. Perhaps illness or problems in old age? Maintaining duty/obligation, schedule, workload, debt, is causing (whoever) continuous suffering and I wouldn't believe o...
by Pye
Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:43 am
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Topic: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap
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Re: Where Buddhism/existentialism overlap

Elizabeth: I don't want this excellent thread to degrade into a fight, so lets not fight about it, okay?
(:D)

Yes, please. I drew fire to myself to reply to Seeker's query, and it was parenthetically, you know . . . .