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- Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:41 am
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
For the record, I don't personally give a flying fuck what Nargarjuna or any other dead guy may or may not have stated or implied. I know what A=A represents and the undeniable truth of that. The ontological discernment that things are neither real nor not real etc etc etc etc, is irrelevant to tha...
- Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:32 am
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
I shall hope for you also. :)Ataraxia wrote:RobertGreenSky wrote:
... one of the authors of a paper I quoted is at University of Melbourne!
Good stuff. I hope to do my post grad work there. :)
- Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:20 am
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
I've presented three sources indicating A = A is disputed in Nagarjuna, two of them directly - that trumps anyone here, in my view. But on Genius Forum does A = A have some special meaning of which Laozi, Nagarjuna, Aristotle, the authors of the quoted materials, and everyone else alive or dead hav...
- Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:36 am
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- Topic: the underground man
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Re: the underground man
Kelly, You're misinpreting both sides of it. You can't run off at the brain and have that be the end of it. Where is the stillness of a mind at ease? What you're suggesting sounds a little like mania, or perhaps logorrhoea. You've found a quotation from Hakuin you like and you're ignoring the purpor...
- Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:58 am
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- Topic: the underground man
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Re: the underground man
Do you think that Hakuin was talking idly and senselessly when he said that one can have kensho and be thinking all day long? - Kelly I just love your interpretations of my intent! When I wrote Hakuin was being a chatterbox I meant only it was a long passage. I included the Chao-chou mondo to remin...
- Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:39 am
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- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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- Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:33 am
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: the underground man
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Re: the underground man
Kelly, Thanks for typing all that although I think Hakuin was being a bit of a chatterbox. A new favorite: A monk asked, “What is the point of ‘Bodhidharma came from the west?’" Chao-chou said, “It is the leg of the chair.” The monk said, “That is what it is, isn’t it?” Chao-chou said, “If that is w...
- Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:19 am
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- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
Hey, Ataraxia. Perhaps not specifically. But they do/did regularly refer to contrast - to "thing" and "not that thing" do they not? - You. We always know what we mean by contrast. We know what we mean by white in comparison with black. They must come into being together. ... Now it's amazing what do...
- Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:27 am
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- Topic: the underground man
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Re: the underground man
Kelly, 'Rest during'? I have to 'get it up' for these things, or better, 'come down from the mount' - :D Thanks for the Hakuin quotation. Hakuin was a major proponent of using koans, and koans are, sadly to note, practice. The most important and influential teaching of Hakuin was his emphasis on, an...
- Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:15 pm
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- Topic: the underground man
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Re: the underground man
David, Having finished in the 'house' thread I should not have added anything to this one and instead rested a good while, but as above I did find you doing exactly what Alex had lately posted on, using Hui-neng for purposes not present in the gist of Hui-neng or in Zen. There is as noted a certain ...
- Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:23 am
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- Topic: the underground man
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Re: the underground man
Wonderfully written post, Alex TA. (I have Ol' Dieb on ignore.) While I would leave it to Robert to describe his frustration (if it is that, or perhaps he also reacts to a simple hack-job?), and know less of Zen than he knows of Kierkegaard, I can fairly easily see what he is describing as of value ...
- Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:40 am
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- Topic: the underground man
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Re: the underground man
I had hoped to just enjoy the thread but having read Alex: ... here on GF, there is really only ONE interpretation that is possible, given the presuppositions and the necessary intellectual (and perceptive) suppressions that are part and parcel of the QRStian mentality. Not only is this done with Ki...
- Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:07 am
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- Topic: the underground man
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The list of people who have been influenced by Kierkegaard [includes] ... Philosophers: Jacques Derrida, Alasdair MacIntyre, Emmanuel Lévinas, Hans-Georg Gadamer, Jürgen Habermas, Alasdair MacIntyre, Martin Heidegger. - Talking Ass Keiji Nishitani of the Zen Kyoto School was for three years Heidegg...
- Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:23 am
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- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
I'll let you know real soon - just keep waiting.Kelly Jones wrote:I challenge Robert to explain his point of view without relying on any external authorities.
Can he do it? Does he know what is true inside-out, familiar with it like the palm of his own hand? Let's wait and see.
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- Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:03 am
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
Lao Tzu named it. He called it the Tao. He even talked about it intelligently which shows that it isn't beyond the realm of thought. Robert, you really need to back away from the scripts that have captured your mind and learn to look at what is actually happening in front of you. - David Laozi name...
- Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:23 pm
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
I'm sure everyone at Genius Forum believes you. Do you think you're Quinn's peer? Have you observed that Quinn has gotten caught contradicting both Nagarjuna and Huang Po? Pretty classy posting, wasn't it?I already have gone beyond the conceptual.
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- Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:12 pm
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
Again, it's interesting to observe this obsessive focus on the "limitations of reason". There is almost never any mention made of, say, the limitations of the emotions, or the limitations of joy. Funny that. Also interesting is that the "limitations of reason" is never mentioned by Lao Tzu, or Chua...
- Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:53 pm
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
Okay, I'll ask the same queston that Robert declined twice to answer. If a Lao Tzu or a Chuang Tzu engages in thought does he automatically lose consciousness of the Tao? I wouldn't answer a stupid question like that. Are you going to pretend you can answer it? Who the hell made you a Laozi, Zhuang...
- Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:50 pm
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Even intellectuals can be infected with the anti-intellectual virus, particularly when it comes to the deepest matters concerning reality. It's called fear. Our era generally operates by this principle - the more important the matter is, the less the intellect is applied to it. - David You again pr...
- Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:40 pm
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
And since when is Wikipedia the ultimate in spiritual (or linguistic) authority? - Shardrol Can you point out where I claimed Wikipedia is the ultimate in spiritual or linguistic authority? Even if it isn't the ultimate authority it's better than none. At the end of it rigpa remains 'awareness' in ...
- Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:36 pm
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
If you would spend all your time - walking, standing, sitting or lying down - learning to halt the concept-forming activities of your own mind, you could be sure of ultimately attaining your goal. ... So, just discard all you have acquired as being no better than a bedspread for you when you were s...
- Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:32 pm
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- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
If you would spend all your time - walking, standing, sitting or lying down - learning to halt the concept-forming activities of your own mind, you could be sure of ultimately attaining your goal. ... So, just discard all you have acquired as being no better than a bedspread for you when you were s...
- Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:01 pm
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- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
'A much better translation [of Huang Po] is the one made by John Blofeld, an example of which can be found [on David's site].' - David The way is spiritual Truth and was originally without name or title. It was only because people ignorantly sought for it empirically that the Buddhas appeared and ta...
- Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:58 pm
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
... A lot of the translations of Eastern texts that we read nowadays have been translated by people who have a conditioned bias against rationality (as part of the anti-intellectual age that we all live in). Thus, when it comes to assigning meaning to these deeper spiritual concepts, they instincti...
- Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:49 pm
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- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
In Tibetan one of the words for the enlightened state is 'rigpa', which literally means knowledge. - Shardrol Nope. Rigpa (Tibetan; Sanskrit vidya) is the primordial, nondual awareness advocated by the Dzogchen and Mahamudra teachings. - Wikipedia, Rigpa, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigpa Awarenes...