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- Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:52 am
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
Hi MA, "I [thought] will never leave or forsake you." I (thought)= thing. will never leave or forsake you= property. Of principles and patterns of thought you are created, of principles and patterns of thought you are guided, of principles and patterns of thought you are moved. principles and patter...
- Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:13 pm
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
Diebert: Dennis, I agree about our senses being wrapped up in all the stories and identities arising out of our participations and reflections in the world around. It looks like you, me and movingalways are in accord, have matching cognitions. But I doubt any implied more pure or 'proper place' to n...
- Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:41 pm
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- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
movingalways: The question then becomes, how does one become liberated of one's conditioned sense interpretations of I Am so as to be aware only of one's unconditioned sense-free interpretations of I Am? Just as a gag has to be set up in a certain way before the punchline delivers. Wouldn't the How ...
- Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:48 pm
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
Diebert, you wrote: There really was no I, no Am, no "proper place". It's all retrospectively made-belief to put it this way. I Am means the sense I exist. You can't say I don't exist because by saying that you have to exist in the first place. I Am can exist without a conceptual framework to explai...
- Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:08 am
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
Deibert: The child is hardly consciously experiencing at all. Memories are fuzzy. There really was no I, no Am, no "proper place". It's all retrospectively made-belief to put it this way. Children do not possess the clarity of mind to do anything but absorbing with great flexibility and non-conceptu...
- Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:45 am
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- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
Hi Jufa, When you were a little kid you experienced 'natural state'. You engaged your environment spontaneously. You didn't have conceptual structures. The natural state I Am was in its proper place. The culture saw you as a recruit for conditioning into the culture. It gave you definitions of yours...
- Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:55 am
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
jufa:
Given it meaning.
objectified it.
made yourself an object.
Made a Story to live into.
it's empty and meaningless.
there's nothing to get.
Right there you've made a pattern."do justly, love mercy, and walk humbly with their God."
Given it meaning.
objectified it.
made yourself an object.
Made a Story to live into.
it's empty and meaningless.
there's nothing to get.
- Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:36 pm
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- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
Hi Jufa,
It's empty and meaningless.
It's empty and meaningless.
- Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:50 pm
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- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
Dennis, if you can digest those quotes and maintain that they are fair, balanced and reasonable assessments of the female gender, then the gulf between us is too great for there to be any fruitful dialogue. The truth is that the house philosophy's pronouncements on women are disgraceful. They heark...
- Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:10 am
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
Jufa Dennis Mahar, what you have presented is what is the base for true logic and reasoning. Well said!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's the work of many thinkers and is hard won ground. It's how causation has us set up to experience. It's easily verifiable in our day to day experience, not mere speculation. I, oth...
- Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:45 pm
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- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
Jufa, When discussions with others move from logic and reason to personal beliefs, there is no longer a harmonious discussion of logic and reason, but chaos of infringement which halts expanding into the unknown. I agree Jufa. The way our brains are wired gives us a sense of I, a sense of Other and ...
- Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:36 am
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
Very pleased to experience your graciousness, thankyou. To get at the QRS woman thing you have to contextualise it. It's hard to catch but once grasped makes perfect sense. The context is 'in order to do Philosophy' Philosophy is an extraordinary conversation set against a background of the ordinary...
- Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:56 pm
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- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
Laird: Dennis, please bring your own love of Listening to this conversation and hear that I've already considered the perspective that you're preaching at me, and that it has only limited value to me. I find an agency-based perspective more fruitful. I find an agency-based perspective thrilling as w...
- Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:21 pm
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- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
laird: Erm, yes - my mind is mine by definition If I am caused and contingent. In what way is 'my mind' possible except as a false claim. Laird, please, tho' scepticism has value, to have it as a fixed way of being, to attach to it, be entrenched in that way, actually holds you away from a conversat...
- Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:00 am
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
Laird writes:
Are you claiming authorship?
Your mind is it?my mind is clear when I post here
Are you claiming authorship?
- Sun Aug 15, 2010 12:20 pm
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
The key word there being "appears", and the missing follow-on phrase being "to me, in my confusion". Like Kelly, you throw around a whole lot of presumptions as to where I'm coming from. My approach here is not sophistic, it is skeptical. Hi Laird, Here we are facing each other. You are aware and I...
- Sat Aug 14, 2010 3:12 pm
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: The essential mistake of academic philosophy
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Re: The essential mistake of academic philosophy
I like this approach. Realising true nature occurs by recognition, by cognition, by rising above the things to a cognitive space, by 'grokking'. There's been a play in Western Philosophy of players and teams such as Socrates/Plato v Pre Socratics. Plato v Sophists. Relativists v absolutists. Presocr...
- Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:52 pm
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- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
High Times indeed.
- Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:17 pm
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
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Re: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy
Laird appears to come from Sophistry of yesteryear which is Postmodernism today. He has gravitated to that way of playing, thinking it is the strong suit. For the Sophist what counts is not the Truth but who wins the argument. Denies that anything in the World is really stable. Thinks human language...
- Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:49 am
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: the underground man
- Replies: 385
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Re: the underground man
Dennis, it's not about kindness kindness means generosity in responding, you could have not responded. guidance means directing to the truth. clarity means clear, plain explanation. thanks means it's appreciated. The conversation has form and there are many possible forms a conversation can have. f...
- Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:56 pm
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: the underground man
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Re: the underground man
Thanks for the kindness, guidance, clarity of that speaking.
There's neither nook nor cranny that isn't God saturated for it can be no other way.
Now is the moment for dwelling.
To dwell in the Infinite.
There's neither nook nor cranny that isn't God saturated for it can be no other way.
Now is the moment for dwelling.
To dwell in the Infinite.
- Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:01 pm
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: the underground man
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Re: the underground man
Hi Kelly, The ancient Greeks seemed to split into 2 streams. Heraclitas said 'it is not possible to step twice into the same river' meaning the particles of water that wash against you on Monday are not the particles of water that wash against you on Tuesday. By that he was saying that Reality itsel...
- Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:17 am
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: the underground man
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Re: the underground man
Well, Kelly, Huang Po has clipped me over the ear with his wake up call. Omigod. I'm experiencing a recognition of how foolish I've been. If I'm conceptualising and building structures, all it means is I'm conceptualising and building structures. If I'm seeking clarity all it means is I'm seeking cl...
- Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:25 pm
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- Topic: the underground man
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Re: the underground man
How do you know what structure is? To what do you compare it? Thanks for your direction even tho' there's the possibility I lack the capacity. Here's where I'm at, I get some of the QRS conversation but not all of it yet. Just to frame it, I see the first person ME, the 2nd person YOU or OTHER and ...
- Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:59 am
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: the underground man
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Re: the underground man
I was happy with the no-bee, no-bottle concept. I was looking at vast spaciousness within which all things rise and fall and an intricate web of cause and effect like latticework happened spontaneously.I accessed the experience of emptiness and felt contentment and felt I had arrived. but then I rea...