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by Serendipper
Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:28 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1771

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

You are fooling yourself if you believe you can stop your mind from seeking. It depends on what we call my mind. Some years ago I planted strawberries, mainly as a way of decorating a retaining wall (ego I guess), but also to get some berries to eat. Ever since, I've been slaving away fighting the ...
by Serendipper
Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:19 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1771

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

Serendipper: But if the realization that I am my questions in order to resolve my questions for the removal of vexation caused by my questions then it would seem that I should know how the game ends by realizing that I am the game and so there is no game which defeats the purpose of the game. You a...
by Serendipper
Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:35 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1771

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

if the vexation which is removed by realizing that questions, god, and myself are all one, then I'd be vexed with boredom. How can I derive enjoyment from playing a game when I already know how the game ends? So either I'm vexed with questions or I'm vexed with answers and the only way to remove th...
by Serendipper
Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:34 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1771

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

Serendipper: The vexation of man is the eternal desire to have all right and no wrong... to have all known and no unknown... all good and no bad. And it was minds like those of the Buddha and Jesus that set out and successfully showed the way to end man's vexation. However, as long as one believes ...
by Serendipper
Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:13 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1771

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

If the vexation is gone then you're vexed with loss of vexation and that begs the question of the point to all of this. If it's gone, it would be gone, right? Otherwise one ends up trying to prove that one didn't wake up to yet another dream So it would seem, but if the vexation which is removed by...
by Serendipper
Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:03 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1771

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

Serendipper: The vexation of man is the eternal desire to have all right and no wrong... to have all known and no unknown... all good and no bad. And it was minds like those of the Buddha and Jesus that set out and successfully showed the way to end man's vexation. However, as long as one believes ...
by Serendipper
Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:43 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1771

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

Serendipper: But neural concepts are the only way I can be aware of anything. I call shapes, color, sound, temperature, hardness, softness, etc into existence in my mind. None of this reality exists without my creating it. The you that is Mind, yes. I assume that you meant to type "neutral" rather ...
by Serendipper
Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:59 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1771

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

Pam: Abstract concepts are concepts that cannot be empirically observed or heard or tasted or smelled or touched (hence their difference from concrete concepts).. They can be purely mathematical or be meaning related such as the ones I mentioned in another post: integrity, joy, love, reasoning, etc...
by Serendipper
Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:46 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1771

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

There are no "orders" of concepts, because that would just be a pleonasm. A statement which expresses a concept is neither that concept itself nor a different concept. Pleonasm? Where and how did you learn such a word? I've always called it an "intellectual" since such is a man who uses more words ...
by Serendipper
Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:06 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1771

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

A statement is more than a series of words; it is a concept that conveys a concept with the property of a concept (where conveyance and property are also concepts, so we could say it is a concept that concepts a concept with the concept of a concept). You've lost me here. A concept that conveys a c...
by Serendipper
Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:28 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1771

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

Serendipper, as I understand the definition of 'abstract' you provided, it is not defining abstract concepts as being apart as in 'outside' concrete concepts, rather that abstract concepts are apart from concrete concepts in the sense of being distinct from or different from concrete concepts. Isn'...
by Serendipper
Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:57 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1771

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

A true/false statement is not the same as the truth/falsity of a statement. I suppose so, but I don't see the usefulness in that distinction. All you're saying is a concept is not the same as the concept of a concept which is merely stating the obvious, as in: I don't understand your point. Why are...
by Serendipper
Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:39 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1771

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

On is lack of off and off is lack of on. True is lack of false and false is lack of true. Etc. The second assertion is false, since false things are unreal to begin with. But you said "so x's existence is nothing more than y's non-existence..." What's the difference between "false", "unreal", "non-...
by Serendipper
Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:38 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: That which is causelessly here
Replies: 16
Views: 498

Re: That which is causelessly here

So many claims on the essence, goal or nature of "fun" but rarely a good dispassionate investigation. Well then let's have one :) But that's understandable when it can be seen as cover term for a great many things. One is a feeling can might appear spontaneous, meaning having no apparent cause. My ...
by Serendipper
Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:22 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1771

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

So it's like + and - where one is merely the lack of the other? Correct. On is lack of off and off is lack of on. True is lack of false and false is lack of true. Etc. The second assertion is false, since false things are unreal to begin with. But you said "so x's existence is nothing more than y's...
by Serendipper
Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:38 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: That which is causelessly here
Replies: 16
Views: 498

Re: That which is causelessly here

Hi Serendipper, I am very much enjoying our conversation! Yes, this is fun and I look forward to your comments! Unless I am misunderstanding your position, it sounds like your stand on truth is that you and I are (only) empirical lens’ for the conscious universe. It appears a high-fidelity transmis...
by Serendipper
Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:48 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1771

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

Nothing really exists or ceases to exist (or both, or neither) in itself. You're correct that nothing can both exist and not exist at an exact time and place, but that is a logical deduction and thus cannot be explained, demonstrated, imagined etc any further without repeating oneself. It is also a...
by Serendipper
Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:42 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: That which is causelessly here
Replies: 16
Views: 498

Re: That which is causelessly here

Serendipper to Diebert: I'm just interested in reality, truth, whatever that is. It seems to me that philosophy is how one chooses to see things, and in order to practice science, one needs a philosophy of science to guide the practice of science. I mean, one could have a philosophy for brushing th...
by Serendipper
Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:04 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: That which is causelessly here
Replies: 16
Views: 498

Re: That which is causelessly here

It seems to me that the notion of predictability and the notion of determination are just two different things altogether. Yes, I think so. Note however that distributions of probability are in fact being determined all the time. I'm inclined to agree in order to prevent having uncaused events. But...
by Serendipper
Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:05 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: That which is causelessly here
Replies: 16
Views: 498

Re: That which is causelessly here

Are you sure randomness is a determining force? Probability and randomness are still descriptions of various processes which would have causes. I definitely see what you're saying and I knew before that everything needs a cause, but I realized randomness is necessitated as well, so my first inclina...
by Serendipper
Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:39 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1771

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

If you have ever read a scientific article, you will notice that at the beginning they will have something called an 'abstract'. Essentially what is meant by the word 'abstract' in this case and in normal conversation is an idea which gives a general understanding of what one wants to communicate. ...
by Serendipper
Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:10 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: That which is causelessly here
Replies: 16
Views: 498

Re: That which is causelessly here

In the end there is not much difference between invoking a mysterious observation of randomness, hidden variables or "one deterministic process" -- at least philosophically. It ends up as some determining force as of yet not to be determined by any human mind, scientist or measurement. Are you sure...
by Serendipper
Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:51 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: That which is causelessly here
Replies: 16
Views: 498

Re: That which is causelessly here

Hi Serendipper. Thanks for responding. ☺ No trouble. I'm trying to figure it out too, so this topic aligns with my interest. It seems that, in following my line of reasoning, you have reached the exact opposite of my intended conclusion. My point is that, in Reality, there is only ever one eternall...
by Serendipper
Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:56 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Arguments against temporal finitism
Replies: 4
Views: 693

Re: Arguments against temporal finitism

If the infinite future can have a starting point (namely, the present), and thus be an example of an infinite which stretches endlessly in one direction only, then the same logical courtesy must be given to the infinite past which stretches back from the present. I'm curious if you have a proof for...
by Serendipper
Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:07 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1771

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

I just happened to stumble upon this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkXL_0SqPbA FWD to 47:45 Is it real or is it not real? When an oriental says "for something that is not real" the first thing he means is "it's not permanent". And so the quality of change of the smoke-like and that, they say, the...