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RH: A thing is that which is conceptually separated from that which it is not. c: Yes. So when one ceases conceptualizing ‘enlightened people’ and ‘unenlightened people’, then one may see clearly. See what clearly? All those things that cause you to distinguish between harm and no harm? . L...

Rhett Hamilton wrote:At best one could endeavour to learn what each individual wants, and give it to them, with fingers crossed.

Rhett;

To give an addict what they crave seems like unwise advice and not promoting liberation.

Do no harm < http://donoharm.us/ >,
clyde

Rhett Hamilton wrote:A thing is that which is conceptually separated from that which it is not.

Rhett;

Yes. So when one ceases conceptualizing ‘enlightened people’ and ‘unenlightened people’, then one may see clearly.

Do no harm < http://donoharm.us/ >,
clyde

Rhett; Well which is it: there “are indeed things” or “there aren’t really any things”? And if there are things “but they are not things in the manner conceived of by the unenlightened” in what manner are they things? Do no harm < http://donoharm.us/ >, clyde p.s: I understand your con...

David; I am pleased (again, I am easily pleased) that you practice ‘choose wise harm’ though I am sad that you will not promote “do no harm”. I understand your objections which seem to be that the slogan does not convey the message accurately enough to satisfy your analysis and understanding...

David; You may well be correct, but Jesus is not here to tell us what he said, what he meant, or what his desires were. You wrote: It is only when our egos suffer that we start to become open to the possibilities of truth. Yes, but my experience and understanding is that others do not need my assist...

Rhett;

You write that you realize “there aren’t really any things,” but you continue to see others. Aren’t others ‘things’? Aren’t you a ‘thing’?

Do no harm < http://donoharm.us/ >,
clyde

David;

Huh? Why are you inserting Jesus into our dialogue?

I don’t know what Jesus said though I can read what he is reported to have said, and I do not know what Jesus meant. Do you?

Do no harm < http://donoharm.us/ >,
clyde

Elizabeth; I understand how answering questions with obvious ( to you ) answers can be tiresome. It was not my intention to cause you to feel “burned out”. I am not stupid, but neither am I a genius, so if that is required here or to have a dialogue with you we should stop. You wrote, Greater qu...

Elizabeth; I do appreciate your effort, but your rough translation seems vague to me. Do you think you could explain “Be smart” so a child (or I) could understand it? Regardless, I hope you see the value in the simple to understand phrase, "do no harm". Do no harm < http://donoharm.us/...

clyde asked: How do you define “better”? the same way the dictionary does. Cute :-) from Merriam Webster Main Entry: 1bet•ter Function: adjective comparative of GOOD Pronunciation: 'be-t&r Etymology: Middle English bettre, from Old English betera; akin to Old English bOt remedy, Sanskrit ...

clyde asked: How would you explain “Be smart”? The better that you know, the better you think things through, and the better that you do, the better your life becomes and the better you can help others live a better life. The better everyone lives, the better they make life for everyone around ...

Rhett;

And after you realized “there aren't really any things,” then what do you do? And do you still see “others weaker than oneself”?

Do no harm < http://donoharm.us/ >,
clyde

Elizabeth; I was not surprised that “do no harm” generated discussion on this forum. After all, people come to this forum to present and debate “ideas”. I welcome exploration of the message. As the ‘movement’ is relatively new (the web-site has been available for only a few months and we...

Diebert;

I am pleased that you found some “wisdom contained on the other webpages”. Those other web-pages were written as contemplations on “do no harm”.

Do no harm < http://donoharm.us/ >,
clyde

Elizabeth;

Grammar aside, as long as a human being is alive they are doing something, even if it is sitting quietly or sleeping. Our choice is doing something to minimize suffering or doing something that does not.

Do no harm < http://donoharm.us/ >,
clyde

Rhett; Yes, I agree. I believe that ignorance is the primary cause; that not understanding the inter-relatedness of all things and that not understanding the impermanence of all things gives rise to attachment and thereby is a cause of harm. If ignorance is the primary (or root) cause of suffering, ...

. I will address both of your questions together as I think my responses are related. There is no specific behavior that I can name, because any action, in and of itself, may or may not be consistent depending on one’s present understanding and the circumstances of the moment; i.e., it is the rel...

A person can hurt another without harming them, and it sounds like you are referring to a helpful hurt rather than actual "harm." It hurts to remove a sandspur, but there is more harm to leaving it in than taking it out - which is helpful hurting. This does not contradict my earlier post ...

Why do you believe that the principle of "causing the least suffering" is consistent with a good understanding of the Infinite? You haven't really spelt this out yet. David; Excellent question. Let me start with this question(s) to you: Have you in the past experienced suffering, such as ...

Diebert; We seem to be covering the same ground again. I’ve acknowledged that the phrase may not be for everyone and I understand that you may prefer some other message or phrase. You wrote, Basically what I'm not agreeing with is the apparent wish that people should stop harming each other. Are y...

Diebert; Thank you for visiting the web-site. I hope you also read the web-page titled “reflections” ( http://donoharm.us/_wsn/page3.html ). We did not write “understand”, but “imagine the pain and suffering of others.” It is not necessary to understand the suffering of others – only t...

David & Rhett; I will address both of your questions together as I think my responses are related. There is no specific behavior that I can name, because any action, in and of itself, may or may not be consistent depending on one’s present understanding and the circumstances of the moment; i.e...

David;

I’m not certain what exactly you’re asking. Perhaps you could rephrase your question?

And in what way could acting according to one’s understanding of the Infinite not be logical?

Do no harm < http://donoharm.us/ >,
clyde

David; I read on your web-site that you are “A follower of the Infinite” and I am a highly logical thinker who spends his days immersing himself in the Infinite. My aim in life is to awaken as many people as possible to this marvellous reality, which I sometimes call God or Tao. Who isn’t imme...