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by Ztoneburg
Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:07 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

I have described how I got there, but that road may not work for you and depends on you finding someone willing to make the journey with you. You haven't described how you got there. All you've done is proclaim that "there" is a great place to have gotten to, without providing any reasons...
by Ztoneburg
Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:57 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

Actually, I spent a few hours reading threads on this forum and found several people who I am very interested in listening to. Dennis is one of them, the others are Pye, Being1 and Movingalways. Diebert is right. You're not sane. I haven't claimed to be, I actually used the word "functioning&q...
by Ztoneburg
Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:19 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

The “process” was my relationship with my wife, which was of the unconventional type. We were both very much into interpersonal communication, coaching, personal growth etc and more or less treated ourselves as an experiment. We didn't get married out of romantic love, but out of intellectual love ...
by Ztoneburg
Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:42 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

So your idea of guidance from us is us agreeing with everything you say? No. You have to agree with everything Dennis says. Surprise! Actually, I spent a few hours reading threads on this forum and found several people who I am very interested in listening to. Dennis is one of them, the others are ...
by Ztoneburg
Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:36 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

I suggest you experience it for yourself. I could try to describe what it is like to make love, but that would be a poor substitute for the experience. But I can't experience it for myself if you don't tell me what it is! I'm sorry but I can't help you. If I knew how to, I would do everything I cou...
by Ztoneburg
Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:18 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

I've read through the forums so I think I've got a grasp on you. You need to put things into boxes with lables and sort them in your cabinet. LOL. Your inability to self-reflect captured in two sentences! Ï'm sorry to have disappointed you. I hope we can part as friends and that you will accept my ...
by Ztoneburg
Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:18 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

The first time I got there was by in effect creating a “super organism” with my wife, by creating a positive feedback loop of love and communication. So I know that is one way to do it. But since others seem able to achieve it without a partner, I figure I should try that, since finding my wife was...
by Ztoneburg
Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:46 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

It had an incredibly intensive rational thought/philosophy part, that was what "triggered" it That's the part I'd like you to explain. How and why? Because without an explanation of your reasoning I can't tell if it is correct. And if you really need me to tell you *how* to explain your r...
by Ztoneburg
Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:01 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

It had an incredibly intensive rational thought/philosophy part, that was what "triggered" it That's the part I'd like you to explain. How and why? After it ended I went looking for an explanation, and found it. What is the explanation you're referring to here? Satori. I am aware that pas...
by Ztoneburg
Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:45 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

Seriously, you guys are a bit paranoid. I am not complicated at all. This forum is famous for its amount of diagnosed and undiagnosed instances of schizophrenia, from the founders to the members. And that's where you join right after recovering from very serious trauma and still under guidance from...
by Ztoneburg
Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:21 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

Ztoneburg "To be wronged is nothing, unless you continue to remember it." Confucius The pain from that bashing was only so bad and only so brief, the rest is in your own hands. Thanks but I already got that bit two months ago. Funnily enough, I didn't have any trouble getting over the &qu...
by Ztoneburg
Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:16 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

Deebs, I think you might be stretching it a bit here. Z seems well adjusted enough And I was just being conservative in my response just in case there was some truth, who knows. But really, if his first wild bit of satori coincided with such death and destruction, it's not that much of a stretch to...
by Ztoneburg
Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:08 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

I used to be very cynical, but I think I've somehow lost the knack for it. It just tastes like stale beer or licking an ashtray when I try it nowadays. :) Thank you, that was a beautiful way of putting it. You made me understand it more, I'm grateful for that. I'm moved to tears by your beingness c...
by Ztoneburg
Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:05 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

If the fact that it was possible to exit this state (involuntarily) means that it was not the "real deal" according to your definition that is absolutely fine. The question isn't whether it was real but what you think made it an enlightened experience. The way you describe it makes it see...
by Ztoneburg
Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:00 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

Dennis Mahar wrote:Lets get cynical.
you know,
just for a change.
Cheers!

I used to be very cynical, but I think I've somehow lost the knack for it. It just tastes like stale beer or licking an ashtray when I try it nowadays.
by Ztoneburg
Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:57 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

What he calls his "enlightenment" really seems to be a so-called "altered" state of consciousness, which is something I have every time I play Mario 2. Spot on, how often you hear about these rare and special special states! "I was in meditation and entered infinity,etc&quo...
by Ztoneburg
Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:56 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

The best we can and should do is try to clear up any misconceptions he has in regards to the path, in my opinion. Yes, but the most obvious misconception he has, as far as I can see, is believing that the experience on July 17th was enlightened. Of course, that depends on the definition of "en...
by Ztoneburg
Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:49 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

This forum isn't for the faint at heart. It will rip you to shreds . Mental stability is required. Now I will go back inside my padded cell. After what I have been through I think I can handle a few lines of text on a screen even if they turn out to be abusive or vitrolic. I'm neither a virgin nor ...
by Ztoneburg
Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:44 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

Hello Z, welcome back. I can't say I'm much further down the path than you, but I can say that a common misconception regarding enlightenment is that it doesn't require a perfect understanding of the nature of reality, of the nature of consciousness, and of the relationship between consciousness an...
by Ztoneburg
Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:41 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

So Z, as you were writing earlier there was this breakthrough on June 15th but on the 17th when you were still in some blissful state something terrible happened and you got accused of murdering your partner and soul mate. On top of the murder charge you received "intensive psychiatric care&qu...
by Ztoneburg
Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:36 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

Hi Z, You and your mate distinguished a possibility for conversation that generates a direct experience of love, a fine intelligibility concerning ordinary/everyday world. Thank you, that was a beautiful way of putting it. You made me understand it more, I'm grateful for that. Your co-creator vanis...
by Ztoneburg
Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:28 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

Deebs, I think you might be stretching it a bit here. Z seems well adjusted enough; he had a decent start early as a life long atheist, then came to experience what he called enlightenment, an experience that was unfortunately heavily anchored onto his love life. Trauma is normal with the loss of a...
by Ztoneburg
Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:17 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Re: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

Hello again Z, considering the type of relationship you describe, it's quite possible you're still mourning deeply and the trauma might take longer as it sounds like a major event. You should take a bit more time before diving into a new hell (challenging your lying and cheating self). I have no in...
by Ztoneburg
Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:19 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again
Replies: 151
Views: 95499

Accidentally stumbling into enlightenment, and out again

A bit over three months ago something very strange (and wonderful) happened to me and after a lot of research I've realized that I by accident stumbled into the state of awareness that seems to be universally known as “enlightenment” or “being”. I say by accident because previous to this I was in no...
by Ztoneburg
Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:03 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: I think I got there first...
Replies: 7
Views: 5023

Re: I think I got there first...

Alright, first you should give up your project. Then, quit the medication and find peace. I kept it simple so you can't ever construe that as 'bad advice'. You'd prefer to be peaceful and not have anxiety or any of that grief, yes? I view unwanted medical advice over the internet with skepsis, no o...