Search found 2011 matches

by jupiviv
Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:54 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1777

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

You've lost me here. A concept that conveys a concept is basically just the conveyed concept. Yes, it basically is. Like 2a + 2b is basically 2(a+b) or 3/6 is basically 1/2. I was just illustrating the many orders of concepts within a statement. There are no "orders" of concepts, because that would...
by jupiviv
Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:03 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1777

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

A statement is more than a series of words; it is a concept that conveys a concept with the property of a concept (where conveyance and property are also concepts, so we could say it is a concept that concepts a concept with the concept of a concept). You've lost me here. A concept that conveys a c...
by jupiviv
Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:26 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1777

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

A true/false statement is not the same as the truth/falsity of a statement. I suppose so, but I don't see the usefulness in that distinction. All you're saying is a concept is not the same as the concept of a concept which is merely stating the obvious, as in: I don't understand your point. Why are...
by jupiviv
Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:00 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1777

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

So it's like + and - where one is merely the lack of the other? Correct. On is lack of off and off is lack of on. True is lack of false and false is lack of true. Etc. The second assertion is false, since false things are unreal to begin with. But you said "so x's existence is nothing more than y's...
by jupiviv
Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:36 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1777

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

So it's like + and - where one is merely the lack of the other? Correct. On is lack of off and off is lack of on. True is lack of false and false is lack of true. Etc. The second assertion is false, since false things are unreal to begin with. At the end of 2 mins, the lamp is both on and off, whic...
by jupiviv
Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:57 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 66
Views: 1777

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

My point was that to require proof or rationale for simultaneous existence and nonexistence as a possibility is not different than requiring proof for the possibility of some pure exclusivity of the binary state: to exist or not. In that case I thank you for bringing the thought-provoking binary an...
by jupiviv
Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:55 pm
Forum: Worldly Matters
Topic: Global Warming
Replies: 182
Views: 37567

Re: Global Warming

The idea of Progress can be useful if it is descriptive, but people use it dialectically to mean that reason itself must progress, because they incorrectly ignore their use of absolutes. You're right about people thinking that reason itself progresses, but Progress as an idea is based on the false ...
by jupiviv
Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:21 pm
Forum: Worldly Matters
Topic: Hoarding books, how do I stop?
Replies: 5
Views: 258

Re: Hoarding books, how do I stop?

If you are just buying random books and adding them to your collection without any fixed goal or reason, then you're probably trying to avoid thinking about something.
by jupiviv
Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:29 am
Forum: Worldly Matters
Topic: Global Warming
Replies: 182
Views: 37567

Re: Global Warming

The big head office has no intention of shutting down while a tiny regional Hindu office still could make a mega profit this year! Yes, I've started doing alt-right, SJW-ready, philosophical couples counseling/self-esteem coaching for patreon donations in tulip bulbs, er, I mean bitcoins like our f...
by jupiviv
Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:48 am
Forum: Worldly Matters
Topic: Global Warming
Replies: 182
Views: 37567

Re: Global Warming

How's it going Diebert! Nice to see you're still keeping the lights on as it were. the current approaches seem to ignore a couple of crucial aspects in the rush to save something from something else. The science is probably sound, it's the "so what do we do?" part where the problem lies, as usual. W...
by jupiviv
Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:49 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Why study philosophy?
Replies: 28
Views: 1347

Re: Why study philosophy?

#1: I think for any given person there's always at least one delusion they are ready to outgrow given the right conditions. I agree but wisdom isn't about giving up "at least one delusion". Delusions are incomplete conscious thoughts. Usually very few unconscious things prevent most/all rational th...
by jupiviv
Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:16 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Why study philosophy?
Replies: 28
Views: 1347

Re: Why study philosophy?

Yes, great interests begin with small ones, but unless the small interests compound into exponentially (infinitely) greater ones fairly early on there is little hope of further progress. Wise teachers can show you what wisdom *is* through their own examples, not *how* or *why* it is. The latter is ...
by jupiviv
Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:50 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Why study philosophy?
Replies: 28
Views: 1347

Re: Why study philosophy?

I wouldn't expect someone to drop everything and dive into an intense study of philosophy based on one conversation, but surely great interests begin with small ones. And I don't think wisdom is solitary. If that were true, why would any wise teachers exist at all? Yes, great interests begin with s...
by jupiviv
Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:33 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Why study philosophy?
Replies: 28
Views: 1347

Re: Why study philosophy?

Is anyone here good at explaining why we should care about philosophy to someone who knows nothing at all about it? No idea about enlightenment, metaphysics, ultimate reality, or anything like that? Unless someone already is interested in something, you can't explain to them why they should care ab...
by jupiviv
Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:35 am
Forum: Worldly Matters
Topic: Global Warming
Replies: 182
Views: 37567

Re: Re:

Too bad we can't just use Harvey water and Bangladesh water to put out the fires throughout the west coast of the US. Good luck with Irma, people. Did you actually ask why "we" can't just "use" Harvey or Bangladesh water to put out fires throughout the US west coast? Well, I guess I should now ask ...
by jupiviv
Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:02 am
Forum: Worldly Matters
Topic: The social justice wars
Replies: 210
Views: 7510

Re: The social justice wars

The more enlightened a person is, the better equipped they are to deal with matters of the world. @Pam Seeback, the crux of what Kevin, myself and Diebert were trying to say to you is stated in this quote in a roundabout way. Matters of the mind and the world are only distinguished in a conventiona...
by jupiviv
Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:34 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: FORUM UPDATE
Replies: 1
Views: 325

Re: FORUM UPDATE

Yeah I saw it when I logged in from my mobile yesterday. Looks more like "defacement" to me though, since they obviously didn't hack the server. Probably some idiot with an axe to grind who picked up some C/Perl/PHP scripts from a hacking forum. I've even seen ASP and javascript coded exploits out t...
by jupiviv
Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:43 am
Forum: Worldly Matters
Topic: The social justice wars
Replies: 210
Views: 7510

Re: The social justice wars

Which is why engaging with those who passionately reason matters of the world (SJW's for example) keeps the world of irrationality turning. Which can, of course, if caused wisely, stoke the fires of ignorance to the point of burnout (the logical fallacy straw that breaks the camel's back) and the i...
by jupiviv
Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:49 am
Forum: Worldly Matters
Topic: The social justice wars
Replies: 210
Views: 7510

Re: The social justice wars

But I wasn't arguing against the goal of everyone becoming rational, since that is a given on this forum. I was pointing out the fallacy in the reasoning behind urging men to magically become rational with respect to women without taking into account the countless other changes which have to take p...
by jupiviv
Sat Aug 26, 2017 5:10 am
Forum: Worldly Matters
Topic: The social justice wars
Replies: 210
Views: 7510

Re: The social justice wars

The main fault in David's reasoning is that he is asserting an urgent need for radical shift towards rationality *only* for men, and *only* in their relationship towards women. He is completely ignoring the fact that such a need, by definition, must apply to all people in all contexts in order to b...
by jupiviv
Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:37 pm
Forum: Worldly Matters
Topic: The social justice wars
Replies: 210
Views: 7510

Re: The social justice wars

The main fault in David's reasoning is that he is asserting an urgent need for radical shift towards rationality *only* for men, and *only* in their relationship towards women. He is completely ignoring the fact that such a need, by definition, must apply to all people in all contexts in order to be...
by jupiviv
Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:52 pm
Forum: Worldly Matters
Topic: The social justice wars
Replies: 210
Views: 7510

Re: The social justice wars

Sit them down, give them some candy, relax them with some banter, and they will become far more open to what you have to say. People have tried this many times, and it doesn't work. They regard your concessions, and the special treatment you give them, as their due, and then they demand more. I thi...
by jupiviv
Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:48 pm
Forum: Worldly Matters
Topic: The social justice wars
Replies: 210
Views: 7510

Re: The social justice wars

We all know that many men behave in a very unseemly manner towards women - whether it be invading their physical space and pressing up too closely to them, or talking at them in a sexualized manner, or engaging in groping and other forms of sexual assault. Understandably, the women on the receiving...
by jupiviv
Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:24 am
Forum: Worldly Matters
Topic: The social justice wars
Replies: 210
Views: 7510

Re: The social justice wars

I actually read that sesquipedalian excerpt from some book with a *way* overlong title. Correct me if I'm wrong, Alexfried, but the point of the author was that the alt-right is founded on *real* populism, rather than the *fake* populism of the "broadly left perspective". The only problem with that ...
by jupiviv
Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:43 am
Forum: Worldly Matters
Topic: The social justice wars
Replies: 210
Views: 7510

Re: The social justice wars

As far as I can see, the historical consensus is that Galileo was indeed persecuted by the Church. But not entirely, or even primarily, for religious reasons. The excerpt you posted adduces that. The Pope's authority was under attack at the time (30 years war began in the early 1600s), so he couldn...