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by Kelly Jones 210
Sat Jun 11, 2005 9:19 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Some Nietzsche quotes re Consciousness
Replies: 19
Views: 6272

Re: Persistence

<t>What depresses me are these legions of fighting men, with a natural abundance of testosterone, simply bowing to the stock behaviour of how to be male. It should make me hoot with laughter. The typical male these days crumbles instantly at a challenge, unless backed up by adrenaline and a mate. <b...
by Kelly Jones 210
Fri Jun 10, 2005 6:15 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Asceticism
Replies: 71
Views: 62495

Asceticism

<t>Consequently, a person that values genuine asceticism is constantly focussed on emptiness. <br/> <br/> If contradictory values arise, then there is no choice but to indulge in selfish ideals, whether these ideals are the desire for truthfulness or delusion. <br/> <br/> To allow contradictory valu...
by Kelly Jones 210
Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:52 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Asceticism
Replies: 71
Views: 62495

Re: Asceticism

<t>Quote:Quote:<hr>I choose to think that Weininger suicided to give meaning to the survival of wisdom, a case of "remember the purpose" rather than "remember the fallen". If he had lived as a "fallen" it would have been murder.<br/> <br/> Leyla: Kelly Jones 210: surprisingly, you are quite the roma...
by Kelly Jones 210
Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:10 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Asceticism
Replies: 71
Views: 62495

Measuring the path of asceticism

<t>Suicide, like everything, has no intrinsic "ought" or "ought not". Like birth it is meaningless.<br/> <br/> It has meaning if one gives it meaning, when one decides to act based on whatever other decisions one has made. The same for continuing to exist.<br/> <br/> One either chooses passive exist...
by Kelly Jones 210
Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:41 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Asceticism
Replies: 71
Views: 62495

Measuring the path of asceticism

<t>Leyla wrote:<br/> Quote:Quote:<hr>I think the main point here is the [il]logical distinction that non-autonomous individuals make between logic and ethics. The supreme value and goodness placed on human birth (choice words), as opposed to human death.<hr><br/> Yes, people either believe passively...
by Kelly Jones 210
Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:42 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Asceticism
Replies: 71
Views: 62495

Weininger extracts

<t>I found the two extracts i was talking about, above.<br/> <br/> From Weininger's "Last Things", chapter on Science and Culture:<br/> <br/> <br/> It cannot be proven that people ought to do the good, for if that could be deduced, then the idea of the good would be the consequence of a cause, and t...
by Kelly Jones 210
Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:35 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Asceticism
Replies: 71
Views: 62495

Dealing with attachment naturally

<t>David wrote:<br/> Quote:Quote:<hr>You initally have to engage single-mindedly in various disciplines and rituals to help you through the withdrawals. But then, as time goes on and the cravings fade away, you can start to relax and live life more naturally. The person who is strongly attached to a...
by Kelly Jones 210
Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:02 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Asceticism
Replies: 71
Views: 62495

Asceticism

<t>If we are caused to be attachment-minded, and are afraid or offended by this, it would be a moral decision to experience attachment fully, and engage in it. For someone committed to being truthful and wise, that would be simply follow naturally from their values. <br/> <br/> Yet because of the na...
by Kelly Jones 210
Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:53 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Asceticism
Replies: 71
Views: 62495

Re: Asceticism

<t>I think a certain amount of avoidance of worldy temptations is necessary to begin with, as a visible commitment to moving apart from worldliness.<br/> <br/> Because this is based on pride, it needs to be challenged eventually. Otherwise, one is still holding onto certain experiences as being intr...