GENIUS FORUMS

David: The difference between a cloud, like all things, and consciousness is that you determine a clouds beginning and end.If you cannot clearly define a cloud - its clearly not a cloud or A=A. All things, including clouds, are defined by you and your mind observes all phenomena. It does follow, giv...

If it requires the All to make up who and what you are, how long have you been around and when will you cease to be? I began and will end whenever I'm caused to. What causes you to be here? The All. If it requires the All to make up who and what you are, how long have you been around and when will ...

Jupiviv: If it requires the All to make up who and what you are, how long have you been around and when will you cease to be? I began and will end whenever I'm caused to. What causes you to be here? In which context does the mind belong, the All or the finite? It is a finite thing, and hence a part ...

Jupiviv: It goes like this: " I am the All, I am the Totality. I am beyond beginning because I was never born. I am beyond end because I will never die. I am the emptiness of the infinite totality." That's not true if you think that the person saying that is literally the All. It only has ...

This is for all of you that think consciousness is created by the brain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_qBIw7qyHU This next link is of blind people, most from birth, having NDE and recalling sights that were third person verified because they could see outside of their body. Open your mind and let...

Greetings David I certainly don't think of the universe as a machine, but nor do I think of it as being alive either. Are you a machine? Are you your body? Is your mind created by your brain? Who or what designed your brain? Were you caused to be? By what mechanism are you alive? What does being ali...

It means opening up to the truth that you were never born in the first place. There you go Jupiviv, what did you say about Quinn agreeing with your idiotic notion of death as an end? It should be clear enough to you now, that which was 'never born' cannot die. Again "deathless". The mind ...

Yeah, once you have seen one coffee cup, you have seen em all. You've seen enough! A mere glance at a breeze blowing through the trees is enough to reveal everything there is to know about God. You don't have to go looking in exotic places beyond the universe. -- David Quinn, september 2013 My poin...

Sin is not conscious because it is Ignorance. That is the Socratic view, which is generally true. I think spirituality requires increasingly high levels of sacrifice and faith, and even though you might have a perfect intellectual understanding of reality, and even though you've emotionally disinte...

Diebert: Lets see if I understand you - We cannot know our experience, things or the infinite so the only thing we know is we can know nothing at all? You can know the infinite in as far as you can know any darn thing, yeah! Yeah, once you have seen one coffee cup, you have seen em all. Once you hav...

Jamesh: B1: If two things cannot be in the same place at the same time, how then does the mind and body exist in the same place at the same time as you said earlier in this thread? Jamesh: There is no category difference between the mind and anything else. Wholes are always emergent properties. &quo...

Diebert: B1: In order to allow our mind and state of being to be in sync, the first realization is that nothing exists but perceptual observations. Things do not have complete, absolute and independent reality in themselves. The universe and the mind are one and the same. Any objections? Diebert: Sh...

Jupiviv: B1:If any thing has no special fixed cause, it then is distinct by and through arbitrary choice. Jup: You are positing the "arbitrary choice" as the special cause here, so you are contradicting yourself. An explanation is not a contradiction if it answers the question. If you say ...

Thankfully for all who encounter their orbit, the wise who know have broad shoulders to permit perseverance pontificating truth amongst the burden of deficiencies encountered via the unworthy. * Away from the academic theoreticians, here’s part of a relevant teaching regarding being conditioned by ...

Diebert, Leyla or Jupiviv,

Anyone ready - "the infinite is just to vast to conceptualize."

Or are you going to keep on saying " I can fit the entire universe between my ears"?

Jupiviv: Jup: By "arbitrarily" I didn't mean out of thin air or independently. I meant that there is no special, fixed cause of the process of distinction-making . B1; Then it follows that they are arbitrary! No matter how you slice it, as in the knife example, all distinctions are a choic...

Jupiviv: Jup:Every distinction we make, whether empirically observable or not, is arbitrary. Yet they do exist in reality. B1: Since you apply all distinctions to all things, how do you determine one thing from another? Jup:Things themselves are distinctions. B1:I suggest you read what you said that...

Mind as mere occurrence or as some level of awareness, yes perhaps so. But it's not a container like lungs in which we can inhale air from outside and exhale again. The lungs can be put on the table and the air can be pumped around by machines. The boundaries and definitions are clear from a scient...

Jupiviv: B1:You apply all limits, properties, distinctions, and processes. Jup: I'd have to be *separate* which is impossible I agree, you are not separate from anything. I am glad you see that. Your premise in this discussion is to convince in the same place at the same time? I believe that anyone ...

Jupiviv: Bosons aren't even relevant to this discussion. If different bosons do appear to occupy the exact same place then logically they would be the same thing, not different things being the exact same thing. Besides, since we are talking about empirical matters, it is impossible to determine any...

can anyone here demonstrate that the infinite can be conceptualized. Not just claim they can, actually demonstrate that the infinite can be conceptualized? If the Infinite is everything...it conceptualizes ITSELF simply by being phenomenal. All phenomena is a conceptual representation of the Infini...

B1; Bosons (especially photon) with the same energy can occupy the same place in space, bosons are often force carrier particles, like a river carrying matter. Diebert: Being loves to preach the very things he does not comprehend. Photons are not defined as particle in that particular instance but ...

The body and mind are as inseparable as the ocean's surface and the waves upon it, like all things. Both of them are parts of the larger material world. However, the mind as it occurs in humans does seem to be a process within the body, so in this particular case it can be said to be inside it. Thi...

The universe and the mind are one and the same.

Inescapable logic and irrefutable.

The atoms that make up sand can also be a sand castle. The total number of atoms in a sand castle may be said to be identical with the sand castle, but in that case a single atom in the sand castle is not identical with it. What does this have to do with two things existing in the same place? You a...