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by Leyla Shen
Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:09 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Explicit Absolute Truths
Replies: 143
Views: 18538

Re: Explicit Absolute Truths

At least, I sure hope you're not going to argue that every reflection is necessarily an assertion.
by Leyla Shen
Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:06 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Explicit Absolute Truths
Replies: 143
Views: 18538

Re: Explicit Absolute Truths

Marx: My dialectic method is not only different from the Hegelian, but is its direct opposite. To Hegel, the life process of the human brain, i.e., the process of thinking, which, under the name of “the Idea,” he even transforms into an independent subject, is the demiurgos of the real world, and t...
by Leyla Shen
Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:39 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Talking to the wall is not Genius
Replies: 262
Views: 14721

Re: Talking to the wall is not Genius

So, your definition of "real" is (arbitrarily) absolute existence - sort of like...absolute philosophy?

What's your definition of existence?
by Leyla Shen
Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:44 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Explicit Absolute Truths
Replies: 143
Views: 18538

Re: Explicit Absolute Truths

Poor Rod. And he just wanted to develop his metaphysic! ;-) (You just have to keep ploughing on here Rod; this is par-for-the-course). Perhaps you misunderstand. The general 'claim' is that it far outweighs the insights and value of whatever other tools one can use. That doing so leads one to recog...
by Leyla Shen
Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:28 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Explicit Absolute Truths
Replies: 143
Views: 18538

Re: Explicit Absolute Truths

For Marx, the "thesis/antithesis" constitute dialectical contradictions which lead to (as some have expressed) a "synthesis". Marx himself never put it this way. Rather, he expressed this movement of men and their relations between each other and with nature to be a "materialist conception of histor...
by Leyla Shen
Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:25 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Explicit Absolute Truths
Replies: 143
Views: 18538

Re: Explicit Absolute Truths

I do not and indeed cannot exclude 'Hegel on his feet' as Leyla said, pretty cleverly. It would be folly to exclude a major idea-force (Marx) that has moulded and continues to mould our human world. I'd love to take credit for that one, but unfortunately it's attributable only to Marx in response t...
by Leyla Shen
Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:51 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Explicit Absolute Truths
Replies: 143
Views: 18538

Re: Explicit Absolute Truths

Leyla. Here it is: thesis = capitalism, antithesis = socialism, synthesis = capitalism--socialism. When you know the details of the synthesis, you know the first rationalised absolute Truth in history and most importantly its logic. Now you can begin to do absolute metaphysics. "First"? I think tha...
by Leyla Shen
Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:11 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Talking to the wall is not Genius
Replies: 262
Views: 14721

Re: Talking to the wall is not Genius

Defining "illusory" as both real and non-real can be acceptable when the real part is the fact of causality but not any fact of a raised object. An illusion is by definition both real and non-real. Your literacy problems have nothing to do with the truth or falsity of a statement, notwithstanding y...
by Leyla Shen
Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:59 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Talking to the wall is not Genius
Replies: 262
Views: 14721

Re: Talking to the wall is not Genius

L: Things are real in the sense that they certainly do exist, but they aren't real in the sense that they do not inherently exist.
Case in point:
Ding Dong: Square pegs rammed into round holes while crying victory!
by Leyla Shen
Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:01 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Talking to the wall is not Genius
Replies: 262
Views: 14721

Re: Talking to the wall is not Genius

Excellent.

So, we are agreed:

Things are real in the sense that they certainly do exist, but they aren't real in the sense that they do not inherently exist.
by Leyla Shen
Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:18 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Explicit Absolute Truths
Replies: 143
Views: 18538

Re: Explicit Absolute Truths

Would it be accurate then to sum up your metaphysic as follows: capitalism=thesis/socialism=antithesis political economy=synthesis/absolute philosophy?
by Leyla Shen
Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:12 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Talking to the wall is not Genius
Replies: 262
Views: 14721

Re: Talking to the wall is not Genius

It would make better sense to say that the realness of things are fleeting, and that things are "no longer real" when their dualistic appearance has no consciousness to act upon. I think then too, it would make better sense to say things are both real and non-real, rather than the realness of thing...
by Leyla Shen
Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:31 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Explicit Absolute Truths
Replies: 143
Views: 18538

Re: Explicit Absolute Truths

Likewise, Rod.

And, sure! I'd most definitely go with master/slave in Hegelian or, putting Hegel on his feet, capital/labour in Marxian.

What you propose then as synthesis proper would be Marx's "end of history" and a whole new dialectic.
by Leyla Shen
Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:54 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Explicit Absolute Truths
Replies: 143
Views: 18538

Re: Explicit Absolute Truths

I certainly found your post thoughtful, and interesting; especially the angle of an historical synthesis as "absolute philosophy". You've got my thumbs up. Absolute philosophies are syntheses. However, when presented for public criticism they must be viewed as a thesis so that the full impact of a r...
by Leyla Shen
Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:17 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Talking to the wall is not Genius
Replies: 262
Views: 14721

Re: Talking to the wall is not Genius

I'm game to continue if you don't mind my adjustments, but if you're interested, it'd be better to work with the reiteration of my point, [...]: you can't relate existence to the absolute, precisely because it (existence) is relative. So if the absolute is said to be real, then existence must not b...
by Leyla Shen
Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:08 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Talking to the wall is not Genius
Replies: 262
Views: 14721

Unclarification

Much of a muchness.
by Leyla Shen
Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:17 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Talking to the wall is not Genius
Replies: 262
Views: 14721

Re: Talking to the wall is not Genius

Hi, Russell. I believe you've left out a premise to make your argument stick and you would need to explain to me what sort of "evidence" I need to review before "it" clicks if you think I'm wrong. Your argument, paraphrased, with the missing premise in bold: 1. Existence is causal and not infinite. ...
by Leyla Shen
Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:59 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Talking to the wall is not Genius
Replies: 262
Views: 14721

Re: Talking to the wall is not Genius

Especially since what follows from your premises in this discussion is simply that Diebert has no "conscious awareness" of rocks.
by Leyla Shen
Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:44 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Talking to the wall is not Genius
Replies: 262
Views: 14721

Re: Talking to the wall is not Genius

The question was that of rockness (identification) and rock (object).

Diebert emphatically denied the existence of rockness, whilst you posit the sameness of identification and object in defence of what you suppose to be "Diebert's premise".

Please explain how you manage that.
by Leyla Shen
Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:48 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Explicit Absolute Truths
Replies: 143
Views: 18538

Re: Explicit Absolute Truths

Conventional thinkers will think that an absolute thesis without proof is next to a failure. Ironically, proof would disprove Truth.
What is an "absolute thesis"?
by Leyla Shen
Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:32 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Talking to the wall is not Genius
Replies: 262
Views: 14721

Re: Talking to the wall is not Genius

It'd be a lot more efficient, for one thing. For example, you wouldn't have to keep dealing with what you think jupiviv thinks Diebert's implying.
by Leyla Shen
Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:28 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Talking to the wall is not Genius
Replies: 262
Views: 14721

Re: Talking to the wall is not Genius

What I'm trying to do is bridge the gap between what jupiviv thinks Diebert is implying and what we've actually been trying to explain to jupiviv.
Why don't you just speak for yourself?
by Leyla Shen
Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:20 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Talking to the wall is not Genius
Replies: 262
Views: 14721

Re: Talking to the wall is not Genius

Russell: Let’s take one of those hollow rubber balls and, for the purposes of illustration, cut it in half so we have two equal spherical caps and place one of them on a table plane side down. Let’s then say the table doesn’t exist. In fact, nothing except that spherical cap exists and, by way of a...
by Leyla Shen
Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:18 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Talking to the wall is not Genius
Replies: 262
Views: 14721

Re: Talking to the wall is not Genius

[cringe] Wake up and smell the roses, Russell! What Diebert is trying to pass off as ultimate reality is wholly inconsistent with this: An object is only what it is identified to be. Any inferences about that object, including its function, what it's made of, its past, etc., is part of the identific...
by Leyla Shen
Sat Apr 02, 2016 10:31 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Talking to the wall is not Genius
Replies: 262
Views: 14721

Re: Talking to the wall is not Genius

Lol

Here's a "real appearance" for the no-things-exist crowd: whilst Diebert thinks he's a torch bearer, in reality he's janitor who treasures above all his own mess!