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<t>Naturyl wrote: <br/> <br/> Quote:Quote:<hr> Yeah, the 'standard dogma' that shows your argument to be fallacious. I'll give you a clue. No one is ever going to 'say anything' as long as you shut your eyes and plug your ears whenever someone starts to refute you. In your world, where eyes are shut...

<t>Naturyl wrote:<br/> <br/> Quote:Quote:<hr> David's essay, although insincerely apologetic and throughly unconvincing in regard to the 'women/dogs' issue, was otherwise a fairly insightful analysis. <hr> What does "insincerely apologetic" mean? <br/> <br/> What do you find unconvincing about the "...

<t>I've never said that. I think it was our resident chimp, Suergaz, who imagined that I said it. <br/> <br/> Even if I did say it, your reaction of outrage is rather curious for somenoe who claims to be a practitioner of the Tao. <br/> <br/> In any case, what I found funny was that, after affirming...

<t>Thomas wrote:<br/> <br/> Quote:Quote:<hr> Our everyday notion of causality is too narrow. It cannot accommodate QM, just as the receptacle idea of space cannot accommodate relativity. <hr> No, your everyday conception of causality is too narrow. That is why you a continually creating a conflict (...

<t>My vote for the most amusing comment on this thread would have to go to this, by Naturyl: <br/> <br/> Quote:Quote:<hr> Well, in the sense that QRS 'hurt people' by making them examine themselves and their relationships, we can hardly fault them, lest we be like the ignorant mob who demanded Socra...

<t>Naturyl wrote:<br/> <br/> Quote:Quote:<hr> DQ: What is the difference between our current quantum models making the assumption that non-determinism is part of the fabric of Reality and nineteenth century physics making the assumption that time and space are fixed absolute realities? In other word...

<t>Dave Toast wrote:<br/> <br/> Quote:Quote:<hr> I see nothing to resolve, as it seems to me that you are talking about two different contextual conceptions of the word cause.<br/> <br/> When it comes to Laplacean determinism, the proof of sufficient cause becomes that much more contextually complic...

<t>Even though I equate God with Nature, I don't like the term "pantheism" and would never call myself a pantheist. In my experience, pantheists are either materialists who believe that the Universe is physical and objective in nature, or mystics who believe that the Universe is composed of a divine...

<t>Naturyl wrote:<br/> <br/> Quote:Quote:<hr> David, you really should conisider dumping any reference to quantum mechanics from your materials. It would probably save you a lot of hassle. Trust me on this. Flush the quantum references. They irritate people, especially ones who care about science .....

Why do you keep quoting these fundamentalists? I might as well hook up with the Pope, or the Hare Krishnas, as hook up with Brian Green. It would be just as meaningful.

<t>Thomas wrote:<br/> <br/> Quote:Quote:<hr> David: Science constantly engages in hypothesizing.<br/> <br/> Thomas: This is really getting quite silly. Science does engage in hypothesizing, okay, but an unsubstantiated hypothesis cannot be used to prove another hypothesis, since it doesn't offer any...

<t>Biggie wrote:<br/> <br/> Quote:Quote:<hr> David, <br/> <br/> You are telling me that the "distinguished minds" embracing your UR are ALL DEAD?!"<br/> <br/> Well, how convenient. ; )<hr> Kevin Solway and Dan Rowden are still alive. There are also others on this forum who are in the process of embr...

<r>Hello all,<br/> <br/> As some of you may have heard, I was recently expelled from the Ne Plus Ultra forum. Unfortunately, the owner closed the forum from the view of outsiders on the same day as kicking me off, and so very few people have had a chance to see what had happened. I have managed to a...

<t>Thomas wrote:<br/> <br/> Quote:Quote:<hr> David: Since a particle necessarily depends on a destructive force not being there at the moment of its birth, this is enough to show that it cannot arise independently of causal conditions. <br/> <br/> Thomas: Bilge. Bosh. Bunkum. Flapdoodle. The existen...

Can you expand on this?

<r>Possibly, although I tend to agree with this line of thought by Kierkegaard: <br/> <br/> <br/> As I have said, it is through woman that ideality is born into the world and<br/> - what were man without her! There is many a man who has become a<br/> genius through a woman, many a one a hero, many a...

I try not to have a low regard for them. I have nothing against them personally. They can be really sweet at times, which makes them endearing. So I try to be upbeat about them. But I find it impossible to ignore the glaring reality that their minds are not focused and penetrative enough to do groun...

<t>Mowk wrote:<br/> <br/> Quote:Quote:<hr> David: "Not really. The fact that everything is caused doesn't mean that everything is predictable, not even in principle...."<br/> <br/> Mowk: In principle? Inherent in the idea of cause and effect is that given this set this will be the result. Result is ...

<t>Hi Mowk,<br/> <br/> Quote:Quote:<hr> DQ: The mind only does these things when it is caused to do so.<br/> <br/> Mowk: This will fast deteriorate into the age old argument between determinism and free will or any of it's similarities.<br/> <br/> So let me spin it a bit. Based on your idea of causa...

<t>Mowk wrote:<br/> <br/> Quote:Quote:<hr> I haven't digested your entire paper yet, I keep running into assumptions that you present as truth as basis to your argument. <br/> <br/> The idea of cause and effect is dependent on time, on the linear quantity of past, present and future. <hr> Not really...

<t>Bird wrote:<br/> <br/> Quote:Quote:<hr> DQ: I've never said forms don't exist, only their boundaries. The form of an eddy continues to appear to our senses even after we perceive the truth that it has no boundaries.<br/> <br/> Bird: Well, an eddy is certainly an interesting example. At first it s...

<t>Dave Toast wrote:<br/> <br/> Quote:Quote:<hr> Do you not think then, David, that it is really stretching it to say that being submissive is feminine? <hr> Traditionally, submission has always been regarded as a feminine quality and that is mainly because women have historically been far more subm...

<t>Voce Io wrote: <br/> <br/> Quote:Quote:<hr> Your transposition wasn't correct, because Truth isn't a thing. There is no reason to distinguish between Truth and consciousness of Truth, since consciousness of Truth is a delusion! <hr> If consciousness of Truth is a delusion, then why are you talkin...

<t>Voce Io wrote:<br/> <br/> Quote:Quote:<hr> DQ: You're confusing Truth (which is non-dualistic and location-less) with consciousness of Truth (which is indeed dualistic and located in wise brains). <br/> <br/> VI: There is only one Truth; if that Truth is nondual and without location, then why are...

<t>Voce Io wrote: <br/> <br/> Quote:Quote:<hr> You know Truth isn't a location or certain thing. <hr> You're confusing Truth (which is non-dualistic and location-less) with consciousness of Truth (which is indeed dualistic and located in wise brains). You implictly acknowledged this yourself when yo...