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by Pam Seeback
Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:55 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 22
Views: 869

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

Serendipper: If relativity cannot ascertain anything, then what can be ascertained relative to your statement and question? jufa: By taking away the 'if' you keep attempting to make relative to that which you have no knowledge of. My list of what we can be certain of this moment and this moment onl...
by Pam Seeback
Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:58 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Value-based love for what was
Replies: 23
Views: 319

Re: Value-based love for what was

Pam states: Self is a concept. SELF is also a concept. Just as life is a concept and tree is a concept and abortion is a concept. Now when these concepts come together in 'languaging', the self or 'life of the self' is formed. There are not two selves, an invisible 'real' self and a visible 'imitat...
by Pam Seeback
Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:52 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Value-based love for what was
Replies: 23
Views: 319

Re: Value-based love for what was

jufa: I agree with you that the self is an idea, which is saying the physical self is an imitation of life of SELF. So again our frame of reference are coming from two different perspective. Self is a concept. SELF is also a concept. Just as life is a concept and tree is a concept and abortion is a...
by Pam Seeback
Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:31 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Value-based love for what was
Replies: 23
Views: 319

Re: Value-based love for what was

jufa: This subject, at lease to me, is partial represented is atheism, and theological idealism is missing. See below as to why, in my posts, theological idealism is missing. Psychologically the path taken by the participants evoke, to me the questions: What is the difference between evolving and e...
by Pam Seeback
Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:44 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Statement about Solway and Trump
Replies: 756
Views: 19395

Re: Statement about Solway and Trump

What is the wisdom of the emptiness? This forum deals with wisdom of ultimate reality, the concept 'emptiness' is a Buddhist term that suggests the ultimate (absolute knowledge) of the nature of things. If you are interested in pursuing the concept, it is also known as "Sunyata". I think it's good ...
by Pam Seeback
Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:01 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Value-based love for what was
Replies: 23
Views: 319

Re: Value-based love for what was

I think once we conjure up the idea of a self, that really never goes away. It's as if we evolved to have that idea... as if it favored survival somehow. All this thinking and pondering we do, that's a selfie-thing because, realistically, we only need to be animatrons to get by. If being mindless i...
by Pam Seeback
Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:33 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Statement about Solway and Trump
Replies: 756
Views: 19395

Re: Statement about Solway and Trump

Hi Serendipper: I think this thread is one of the most valuable on the forum because we can really get to the nuts and bolts of what we are, but be careful what you say because 'they' might be reading ;) To me this thread is valuable because it opened up the underbelly of enlightenment in relation t...
by Pam Seeback
Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:47 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Value-based love for what was
Replies: 23
Views: 319

Re: Value-based love for what was

I wasn't questioning the idea that self arises simultaneously with the concept of other, yes, Serendipper is right on target, I was pointing out that that the 'other' didn't have to be conscious. He may not have meant to exclude unconscious 'others', but just in case...:-) Actually, I think I did :...
by Pam Seeback
Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:19 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Statement about Solway and Trump
Replies: 756
Views: 19395

Re: Statement about Solway and Trump

The 'self' is made up of poetic or reasoned memories projected as 'other' and if these two ways of thinking are not clearly distinguished as being very different causalities they can become a congealed stew of a mixture of both. I am not saying that this is what is happening in this thread, only tha...
by Pam Seeback
Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:24 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Value-based love for what was
Replies: 23
Views: 319

Re: Value-based love for what was

Diebert: It would be interesting to examine the notion "other" a bit further. Do we really just speak names or instill "otherness" and "being" on the object during the invocation? In the sense that soccer ball would become just some instant replacement, a "stand-in". A bit more extreme and therefor...
by Pam Seeback
Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:52 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Value-based love for what was
Replies: 23
Views: 319

Re: Value-based love for what was

Serendipper: The concept of self arises simultaneously with the concept of other. "Hey, you seem to be conscious, hmm... maybe I am conscious too!" Without the observation of the consciousness of others, we will simply persist in the oceanic feeling. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceanic_feeling Th...
by Pam Seeback
Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:35 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Navigating Perpetual Existence
Replies: 43
Views: 2421

Re: Navigating Perpetual Existence

Seendipper: So if I suggest the meanings for the words should be: Perception - interception of information Awareness - perception of perception. Consciousness - perception of awareness. Based on your individual suggested meanings of "perception, awareness and consciousness" your word "consciousness...
by Pam Seeback
Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:56 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Why study philosophy?
Replies: 28
Views: 1017

Re: Why study philosophy?

Matt Gregory: Yeah, I hate discussing politics because I always end up in a discussion where the other person has a strong opinion about something and they've read all about it, whereas I generally don't, so they can present so-called facts that I know are completely stupid, but I nevertheless can'...
by Pam Seeback
Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:59 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Impermanence and meaning
Replies: 51
Views: 2188

Re: Impermanence and meaning

Ouch, my boomerang just came back! :-)

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by Pam Seeback
Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:50 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Why study philosophy?
Replies: 28
Views: 1017

Re: Why study philosophy?

Matt Gregory: Yeah, I hate discussing politics because I always end up in a discussion where the other person has a strong opinion about something and they've read all about it, whereas I generally don't, so they can't present so-called facts that I know are completely stupid, but I nevertheless ca...
by Pam Seeback
Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:59 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Impermanence and meaning
Replies: 51
Views: 2188

Re: Impermanence and meaning

Diebert: And when ignorance is removed and suffering extinguished, what more you do you want to add here? Pam: So this is how it is to be for all time, we continue suffering our ignorance so things can be added to our existence? Sounds like the perfect definition of insanity to me. Diebert: One cou...
by Pam Seeback
Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:51 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Why study philosophy?
Replies: 28
Views: 1017

Re: Why study philosophy?

jupiviv: He didn't say "no woman can make you happy", but "you cannot make a woman happy". The two statements are like heaven and hell, literally! Now let me rephrase those two statements in the context of embracing truth: "no woman can make you happy, in comparison to embracing truth", but "you ca...
by Pam Seeback
Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:08 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Impermanence and meaning
Replies: 51
Views: 2188

Re: Impermanence and meaning

Diebert: But it's not a failure at all! The idea of having two distinct roots or principles remains troubling and dividing. It was you who used the concept of ' a principle' when addressing ignorance, as if it exists in relation to other principles. If it were the only one, you would have said the ...
by Pam Seeback
Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:41 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Impermanence and meaning
Replies: 51
Views: 2188

Re: Impermanence and meaning

..but I heavily reason and lean toward the former; that there can be no arising of form at all without the accompaniment of the arising of suffering. You lean towards it because you lean to truth: arising of form is only possible through a fundamental attachment to its rise, some (subconscious) wil...
by Pam Seeback
Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:33 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Sloth/Laziness is absolutely incompatible with the path
Replies: 10
Views: 591

Re: Sloth/Laziness is absolutely incompatible with the path

If one has to think about not being philosphically lazy then they have not been taken by wisdom. Wisdom must become the beloved, the one and only, the spouse, the greatest desire, the obsession if she is turn you inside out. When wisdom has her way with you, she goes to bed with you, she wakes up w...
by Pam Seeback
Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:10 am
Forum: Worldly Matters
Topic: The social justice wars
Replies: 210
Views: 6301

Re: The social justice wars

The more enlightened a person is, the better equipped they are to deal with matters of the world. @Pam Seeback, the crux of what Kevin, myself and Diebert were trying to say to you is stated in this quote in a roundabout way. Matters of the mind and the world are only distinguished in a conventiona...
by Pam Seeback
Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:59 pm
Forum: Worldly Matters
Topic: The social justice wars
Replies: 210
Views: 6301

Re: The social justice wars

Pam Seeback: I understand you believe that the Worldly Matters forum highlights one's ability to reason effectively, my question to you is: why would the Genius forum not be the ideal place to achieve this most-necessary goal? Kevin Solway: The main genius forum is supposed to be mainly for philoso...
by Pam Seeback
Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:01 am
Forum: Worldly Matters
Topic: The social justice wars
Replies: 210
Views: 6301

Re: The social justice wars

those who passionately reason matters of the world (SJW's for example) I don't see evidence that the SJWs are using reasoning. Their conclusions are based on feelings and henids. They can't present a rational argument, which is why they are so dependent on name-calling or physical force. Since matt...
by Pam Seeback
Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:48 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Sloth/Laziness is absolutely incompatible with the path
Replies: 10
Views: 591

Re: Sloth/Laziness is absolutely incompatible with the path

If one has to think about not being philosphically lazy then they have not been taken by wisdom. Wisdom must become the beloved, the one and only, the spouse, the greatest desire, the obsession if she is turn you inside out. When wisdom has her way with you, she goes to bed with you, she wakes up wi...
by Pam Seeback
Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:00 am
Forum: Worldly Matters
Topic: The social justice wars
Replies: 210
Views: 6301

Re: The social justice wars

Which is why engaging with those who passionately reason matters of the world (SJW's for example) keeps the world of irrationality turning. Which can, of course, if caused wisely, stoke the fires of ignorance to the point of burnout (the logical fallacy straw that breaks the camel's back) and the i...